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re: Lee v. Jefferson... ultimate vote
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone who pulls for individual players at the expense of another. There are people that will secretly hope LSU loses if JJ is QB, or if Lee is QB. Few will man up and admit it though.
I'm with you 100%. I don't pull for an individual player either way. The subject of this thread is just picking a player to lead the offense. I don't care either way... I just want to watch us be successful. Might catch bad breaks and lose games, but I want us to ultimately win or look good trying.
If anyone truly goes into a game wanting us to lose just so an individual player or coach gets the boot, then that's chicken shite.
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:20 pm to saintsfan22
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Signed,
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:22 pm to Boh
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I'm with you 100%. I don't pull for an individual player either way. The subject of this thread is just picking a player to lead the offense. I don't care either way... I just want to watch us be successful. Might catch bad breaks and lose games, but I want us to ultimately win or look good trying.
As well. I can guess at who I think gets significant playing time but I wouldn't care if Nancy Pelosi ran the LSU offense if she got results.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:22 pm to Boh
I don't pull against anyone. I support coaching moves that gives our team the best chance to win.
I would seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone that suggests that Jarrett Lee starts over Jordan Jefferson. A real fan supports moves that gives their team the best chance to win.
If Jefferson blows out his knee, I support Lee coming in and playing.
I would seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone that suggests that Jarrett Lee starts over Jordan Jefferson. A real fan supports moves that gives their team the best chance to win.
If Jefferson blows out his knee, I support Lee coming in and playing.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:22 pm to Antonio Moss
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When all objective evidence points to option A being the best option, and a person selects option B, one can only assume that this person does not want the best option.
What evidence is there than JJ wins more games than Lee in 2010? If you're going on past performance (objectively), then we will finish 112th in total offense again and you assume Lee can't improve from last year
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:24 pm to Antonio Moss
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I would seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone that suggests that Jarrett Lee starts over Jordan Jefferson. A real fan supports moves that gives their team the best chance to win.
The problem is that coaches decide what gives us the best chance to win. You don't know better than the coaches going into a season. We can second guess them all we want, but would you support Lee if the coaches put him out there week 1?
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:27 pm to Boh
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The problem is that coaches decide what gives us the best chance to win. You don't know better than the coaches going into a season.
Right. And Jefferson is the clear #1. But you want Lee to start. Why are you such a terrible LSU fan?
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We can second guess them all we want, but would you support Lee if the coaches put him out there week 1?
Sure, but its not going to happen.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:28 pm to Boh
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What evidence is there than JJ wins more games than Lee in 2010? If you're going on past performance (objectively), then we will finish 112th in total offense again and you assume Lee can't improve from last year
This has been hashed out 100 times in the last week. Go look through some of these threads. We've broken it down pretty thoroughly.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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Right. And Jefferson is the clear #1. But you want Lee to start. Why are you such a terrible LSU fan?
I'd love to see Jefferson go 14-0 this year. But the subject of this wasn't if you support whomever the coaches put out there. You assume I won't support Jefferson just because I (as a dullard fan just like you who couldn't dream of coaching the LSU football team better than Miles and company) say Lee gives us the better shot to win.
And that's the point. It's just an opinion, just like yours. I doubt anyone who said Lee is going to be pissed seeing Jefferson win games. If you think that, then you're stupid.
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Sure, but its not going to happen.
agreed
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:35 pm to Antonio Moss
JLee
cuz LSU's lost more games when JJ started than when JLee.
cuz LSU's lost more games when JJ started than when JLee.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:36 pm to Boh
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I'd love to see Jefferson go 14-0 this year. But the subject of this wasn't if you support whomever the coaches put out there. You assume I won't support Jefferson just because I (as a dullard fan just like you who couldn't dream of coaching the LSU football team better than Miles and company) say Lee gives us the better shot to win.
You just said that "coaches make the decisions" and "you pull for LSU, not individual players."
Well, the coaches have made the decision that Jefferson is the starter. Yet you support Lee, an individual player, despite the coaches' decision.
Why are you such a terrible LSU fan?
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:40 pm to Antonio Moss
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Well, the coaches have made the decision that Jefferson is the starter. Yet you support Lee, an individual player, despite the coaches' decision.
Just because I support Lee doesn't mean I don't support Jefferson. What can't you understand about that?
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:40 pm to Antonio Moss
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I would seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone that suggests that Jarrett Lee starts over Jordan Jefferson. A real fan supports moves that gives their team the best chance to win.
I am not sold on either. In fact, think both are regressing due to circumstances that are not totally their fault.
As of today, neither has taken a snap in the 2011 season so I honestly don't know which one is better suited for this offense at this time. I haven't been to practice, don't know which one has progressed the most since the end of last season. If you have special insight, please tell the rest of us. I hope both get PT, LSU will need both.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:44 pm to Boh
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Just because I support Lee doesn't mean I don't support Jefferson. What can't you understand about that?
Wait, you and Roger were just jerking each other off talking about how "I don't support players, I support the team." Which was obviously directed at me even though I've made it clear that I support Jefferson (like the coaches.)
And then to top it off, you said that "its the coaches decision." Well, if its the coaches decision and they decide that its best for the team if Jefferson starts, and you "support" Lee starting, then you obviously are supporting an individual player over the team.
There is no way to spin out of the that.
Now, for the record, I don't actually think you're a terrible fan. Misguided? Yes, but not terrible.
I'm just getting real sick and tired of being accused of "bashing" Lee when I'm simply stating why Jefferson is the superior QB and backing it up with evidence.
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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Wait, you and Roger were just jerking each other off talking about how "I don't support players, I support the team." Which was obviously directed at me even though I've made it clear that I support Jefferson (like the coaches.)
You actually show some intellect on the poli board.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't pick any player. Don't give a shite who plays QB for LSU, I am a fan of the team, not of individual players.
I seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone who pulls for individual players at the expense of another. There are people that will secretly hope LSU loses if JJ is QB, or if Lee is QB. Few will man up and admit it though.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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And then to top it off, you said that "its the coaches decision." Well, if its the coaches decision and they decide that its best for the team if Jefferson starts, and you "support" Lee starting, then you obviously are supporting and individual player over the team.
There is no way to spin out of the that.
We just don't agree on what supporting the team means. Obviously it's the decision of the coaching staff who plays and who doesn't. I put myself in the coach's shoes in picking Lee out of the 2 choices. This is based on everything I've seen over the last 2 years. I think Lee can and has gotten better, as well as Jefferson.
Just because it's my fan's opinion that Lee gives us a better chance to win doesn't mean I'm upset that he won't be starting. Anyone with an LSU jersey on gets my support.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:51 pm to Antonio Moss
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I don't pick any player. Don't give a shite who plays QB for LSU, I am a fan of the team, not of individual players.
I seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone who pulls for individual players at the expense of another. There are people that will secretly hope LSU loses if JJ is QB, or if Lee is QB. Few will man up and admit it though.
And it relates to what you posted, how? I fully stand behind that statement, It's a general statement and not pointed at any individual. People tend to "out themselves" in these threads.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:51 pm to Boh
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We just don't agree on what supporting the team means. Obviously it's the decision of the coaching staff who plays and who doesn't. I put myself in the coach's shoes in picking Lee out of the 2 choices. This is based on everything I've seen over the last 2 years. I think Lee can and has gotten better, as well as Jefferson.
Just because it's my fan's opinion that Lee gives us a better chance to win doesn't mean I'm upset that he won't be starting. Anyone with an LSU jersey on gets my support.
Okay, so now people that support an individual player at a position aren't bad fans?
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So in the middle of Boh and I's conversation you decided to randomly respond to Boh and post this general idea:
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I seriously question the "fanhood" of anyone who pulls for individual players at the expense of another. There are people that will secretly hope LSU loses if JJ is QB, or if Lee is QB. Few will man up and admit it though.
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