re: Just answer me this question...

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Or the coaches putting him in a situation play-calling wise where the game is on his shoulders, and moreover, rolling him out to that side where Lafell is the main target. Tried to make the play. Lafell didn't even jump... with a defender behind him. Lafell has to take some of the blame for the OT interception. Watch the play.

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It was double coverage dude, that's not a high percentage throw. I'm not saying there were any other options but throw it out of bounds and at least try the field goal...which helps my 'poor decisions' argument.

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Some people are expecting Lee to do in one year what may others took three and four years to do.

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You are totally right, yet you fail to see the point of my original post! He hasn't shown one ounce of progression at all. In fact he has regressed. That's all I'm trying to say. I don't expect a heisman winner, just that he improves on fundamentals. That's all.

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But "help me to understand" happens to be a saying that irritates the hell out of me. it just does.

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You have to understand that rational people trying to make a point on a ranter board have to begin with shite like that to avoid getting yelled over. It happens with ignorant audiences.

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Still hit Byrd in the hands. Freshman trying to make a play on down and distance.

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the ball should never have been thrown. you argue that byrd shouldve caught the ball. i argue it shouldve been tipped if not intercepted by the linebacker cutting in front of him.

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Or the coaches putting him in a situation play-calling wise where the game is on his shoulders,

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right, so its the coaches fault that lee threw the ball to lafell when he had a defender underneath and over the top of him that entire route. its also their fault that he stared at lafell the entire time and never saw a wide open byrd on the other side of the field.

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and moreover, rolling him out to that side where Lafell is the main target.

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i wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that rolling out to the right is the only time lee showed semi-decent accuracy the entire game.

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Tried to make the play.

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who gives a frick what he tried to do. hes tried to make plays the last 6 games and has failed much more often then not.

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Lafell didn't even jump... with a defender behind him. Lafell has to take some of the blame for the OT interception.

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oh thats right, its lafell's fault that lee overthrew him so badly on a pass that should never have been thrown in the first place.

this is one of the dumbest things ive read on this board lately. and thats saying a hell of a lot.

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Watch the play.

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i would actually offer you that advice, but its blatantly obvious it did you no good the first time, so why bother now?

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He was trying to pull the defender off of Keiland...something that worked before this year.

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i dont give a shite what he was trying to do or what has worked before. 2 more steps and he has a first down. period end of story. not only did he not do that, he threw another absolutely uncatchable ball.

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There were several throws that he made where he didn't stare down his receiver.

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what game and quarterback were you watching exactly? because im talking about jarrett lee in the lsu-alabama game on november 8, 2008. obviously you were not watching the same one.

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Yeah, who cares about cutting this 19 year old freshman quarterback any slack at all? Mistakes were made all over the field by several different players, but somehow they are all linked back to Lee.

All I'm saying is this:

If we are going to hold our RS FRESHMAN QUARTERBACK to this much scrutiny, it stands to argue that when VETERAN PLAYERS make other mistakes they should be held to the same type of scrutiny. The freshman is the one who is supposed to make the mistakes, and the veterans are supposed to capitalize when he doesn't. That hasn't happened.

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If we are going to hold our RS FRESHMAN QUARTERBACK to this much scrutiny, it stands to argue that when VETERAN PLAYERS make other mistakes they should be held to the same type of scrutiny. The freshman is the one who is supposed to make the mistakes, and the veterans are supposed to capitalize when he doesn't. That hasn't happened.

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+10,000

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I did not miss anything. You are missing the point that the same thing was said about all the other QB examples I mentioned. People have to accept the fact that it takes MOST QBs years, not games, to really become excellent. Anyone who knows football knew this before we played a down this year. I said before the season (in private, not on a public board) that we could easily lose 4 or 5 games this year due to RP leaving. Just look at the last few years when we have had quarterbacks as good as we are ever going to see. We struggled to win in MANY games. Now, you start a RS freshman QB with ZERO experience and you think we are going to win most of the big games? Not gonna happen 99% of the time. Booty is another good example. He threw tons of interceptions his first couple of years, and then his senior year he was ALL-SEC.

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You still don't address my original point about progression do you? It's because you can't. I'm not calling this kid out. I said before that he was young and inexperienced. You just tell me where you see one ounce of progression in his play from the Auburn game...like I said, he still throws off his back foot and still makes poor decisions throwing the ball. Sam bradford, although probably an anamoly, played well as a redshirt frosh...and guess what? HE IMPROVED THE NEXT YEAR! I'm not saying Lee is terrible, just that I see no bright spots. Why can't you just accept that he may not be the answer. Maybe Jefferson is. Maybe not. But he at least deserved a chance after Lee threw his 3rd pick when we were still close and showed absolutely no spark for our offense. Think about when we got the ball with a couple minutes left...he did nothing. He overthrew Dickson on 3rd down.

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'm not saying Lee is terrible, just that I see no bright spots. Why can't you just accept that he may not be the answer. Maybe Jefferson is. Maybe not. But he at least deserved a chance after Lee threw his 3rd pick when we were still close and showed absolutely no spark for our offense. Think about when we got the ball with a couple minutes left...he did nothing. He overthrew Dickson on 3rd down.

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The good news is this:
In every game since (Auburn and since), there has been at least one difficult pass in which he was ON THE MONEY. The TD to Byrd this weekend was phenomenal. The problem I think you have, and so do I, is that we aren't seeing those positives increase and we aren't seeing his negatives decrease. And it might not be something we see this season.

I still think the coaches did the right thing by riding him out. It is going to be so nice to have a junior or senior quarterback that was thrown in the fire against a #1 ranked team (in overtime no less) his freshman year.

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+10,000

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x100,000, but you're overlooking the plays that Lee overthrows, throws behind, etc. these same players. Lafell made a great catch on that WIDE open play at the end of the game...yet it was way behind him. Think about it, Lee is a collegic top 7 high school QB in the nation yet he can't hit a reciever in stride. How do ya'll miss that?