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re: Joe Burrow, 5-Wide & 5 in Pass Protection? "It Means the World"

Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:38 pm to
About football in general, not just LSU.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:47 pm to
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No one that predicted this kind of offensive output had any basis in reality.
Slackster. You are so incredibly clueless!!!!

Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:47 pm to
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He/she was completely illogical all offseason. No one that predicted this kind of offensive output had any basis in reality. He/she just got lucky, and Buckeye's threads since then continue to prove he/she is clueless about LSU.



Any of us who were being cautious were waiting to see if E or Brady were going to be the main OC. If E was in control of the O like last year ..nobody would know who Burrow is..but fortunately Brady has been the man.

If LSU QBs like Bert Jones, Tommy Hodson, Rohan Davey, Jamarcus Russell etc had an OC like Brady, they would have just as good of numbers as Joe. Hell..Bert Jones was 1 of only 3 QBs in the 70s to have a QB rating above 100 in the NFL along with Staubauch and Stabler. Buckeye thinks we’ve never had a QB as great as Joe. We’ve had plenty. We just didn’t have the system in college.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:52 pm to
^^^^Unhinged Idiocy^^^^

[But so glad that you are revealing your true colors]
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
38088 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:54 pm to
Burrow is great, but we were blessed with 4 great QB's in the noughties. Davey was superb, Mauck was great, JaMarcus may have been the most talented QB we've ever had (and the QB who relied most on that talent, especially his arm strength) and Flynn wasn't that far behind in terms of talent. I would have loved to see each in this offense.

The competency of Brady makes our offensive coaching from 2009 to 2018 (save 2013) look like a bunch of retards. I'm glad we have him and hope we can keep him.
Posted by Genestealer55
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:56 pm to
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But so glad that you are revealing your true colors]


I didn’t know logic and reason was a color...learned something new
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:04 pm to
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The competency of Brady makes our offensive coaching from 2009 to 2018 (save 2013) look like a bunch of retards. I'm glad we have him and hope we can keep him.


Brady + Burrow is a combination we've never had. No doubt about it.

The "problem" is that we'd never seen a Brady offense in action (not his own), and we'd never seen this kind of efficiency from Burrow.

To predict both were going to happen, along with the massive improvement from the rest of the offense, required a level of unbridled optimism that no one could logically muster.

You had to be illogical to predict this kind of massive success - enter Buckeye Jeaux, the most illogical poster on the Rant.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:07 pm to
The concepts we are using other teams have used for a while. Brady has been especially good at installing it though. The massive improvement in general play might be due to the talent we all knew LSU had on that side of the ball. But this dude isn't clairvoyant or anything. He/she just likes Burrow a lot. No clue why he's getting upset by the relatively benign use of a formation that every offense uses.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7789 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Brady + Burrow is a combination we've never had. No doubt about it.


I’ve never seen even remotely as many WRs running wide open during the previous 45+ years that I’ve been watching LSU as I’ve seen this year in Brady’s offense
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
38088 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:11 pm to
Jefferson in particular is amazingly good at getting open. He does lots of subtle moves to make space, and is really instinctive with his understand on where space will be. But he showed some of that ability last year too.

I really want to see what happens when some of these talented players leave. Will the offense be plug and play? I certainly hope so.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:13 pm to
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You had to be illogical to predict this kind of massive success - enter Buckeye Jeaux, the most illogical poster on the Rant.
Did you happen to see the numbers that Dwayne Haskins logged in almost exactly the same Spread/RPO offense? And Haskins did it with less throwing accuracy and with more experienced WRs.

YOU couldn't figure it out, THUS no one could possibly know? You are such a joke!!!
Posted by Genestealer55
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:14 pm to
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almost exactly the same


Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:22 pm to
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almost exactly the same
Not referring to accuracy.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90101 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:23 pm to
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Did you happen to see the numbers that Dwayne Haskins logged in almost exactly the same Spread/RPO offense? And Haskins did it with less throwing accuracy and with more experienced WRs.




So you knew:

A) Brady would install the Ohio State variation of this offense

B) Burrow would improve from 64% accuracy to 77% accuracy

C) Our drop rate would fall 25%

D) The OL would improve as much as it has

E) A litany of other factors that have improved

Face it man, even your signature predictions are going to be way off. Even you didn't see this coming.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:26 pm to
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Face it man, even your signature predictions are going to be way off. Even you didn't see this coming.
My signature line was what I considered a lock. I was hoping for ban bets from assholes like you.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7789 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Face it man, even your signature predictions are going to be way off. Even you didn't see this coming.


He was banking on not having E be our main OC. If he was, Burrow would be a blip in history. Brady has made Joe..thank God!
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7789 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Not referring to accuracy.


^^^^^unhinged idiocy^^^^
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:39 pm to
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My signature line was what I considered a lock. I was hoping for ban bets from assholes like you.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:42 pm to
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A) Brady would install the Ohio State variation of this offense
I wouldn't call it that. It is the same basic offense that dozens of colleges, and hundreds of high schools use. Brady and E have done a great job of making it run very smoothly.

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B) Burrow would improve from 64% accuracy to 77% accuracy

79.4% actually. See C

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C) Our drop rate would fall 25%

that was easy to predict, if they got the Jugs reps. LSU had the athletes, but the Jugs reps and distraction drills was the clincher. LSU WRs have stated this in numerous interviews. Every drop is about 3% off a completion rate for that game. Further, the spread creates openings that an accurate QB can exploit (that he would not get in a traditional passing offense). LSU had close to 3 drops a game last year - that's close to 10% on completion rate. Further, WRs are "creating" catches that would not be drops if they missed them. that also adds a few points.
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D) The OL would improve as much as it has

The O-Line improved greatly with a year of experience. But the speed of getting rid of the ball in this offense would immediately improve ANY O-Line.
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E) A litany of other factors that have improved

CEH has been a huge factor. Moss also has. And the WRs have been solid pros in their practice and on-field routines. And Burrow has been permitted to have meaningful input in the design and implementation of this offense.

Bottom Line: No. I'm not surprised at all. And I couldn't be happier that Joe is getting to play ball at LSU.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:43 pm to
Thank God for Joe Brady

Brennan is gonna feast next few years
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 1:46 pm
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