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re: JJ Running/ Passing QB

Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:56 am to
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:56 am to
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nobody is saying he should be kicked off the team...I was talking about he'll be a senior (junior + senior = 2 years)

you misread my intentions, i was poking fun at you...
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I asked a "question" not a statement,
no you didnt look up!
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this is his 1st year as a starter....
2nd year...started 3 games last year...now were going into his 3rd...
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but before you post something stupid again

too late on your part
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since JJ and JL isnt the "answer",
what made you think Garrett is better?

wont know till you find out, only way to find out is to play them....all i know is the other two aint gonna cut it..
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How many QBs do you know that went +10 or better as a 1st year starter as a freshman?

#1 JJ wasnt a Freshman this year he was a soph.
#2 he wasnt a 1st year starter, he started 3 games last year
#3 answer to your question Sam Bradford
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:00 am to
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2nd year...started 3 games last year...now were going into his 3rd...



He only started the Arky and Ga. Tech games in '08. Last year he was basically a red-shirt freshman playing too early. THIS year all bets are off. The kid has to mature into the role.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:11 am to
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They gave the QB plenty of time to throw the ball

You really don't believe this.
You just come on here with this laughable crap to stir the pot and get your jollies. The more ridiculous the statement, the more replies you get.
I picture you as Alfred E Newman pokin a caged Tiger with a stick.

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:14 am to
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You really don't believe this.


he really does
that's why it's so funny
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:15 am to
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You really don't believe this.


yes I do, THEY GAVE HIM PLENTY OF TIME TO THROW THE FOOTBALL!!!!! AT LEAST 4-5 SECONDS DAMN NEAR EVERY DOWN!!!
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:17 am to
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yes I do


Sorry, I guess I gave you too much credit.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:19 am to
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yes I do, THEY GAVE HIM PLENTY OF TIME TO THROW THE FOOTBALL!!!!! AT LEAST 4-5 SECONDS DAMN NEAR EVERY DOWN!!!



This is how I know you're either just fricking around or nuts.... or both.



Now, I do agree that JJ DOES hold on to the ball too long but I'll chalk that up to not wanting to go down the JL road. No harm no foul. However, Crowton HAS to stop calling plays were 3 WRs and a TE all run 30yd routes. That shite was pissing me off last year. We NEVER had a back leak out of the backfield. The one time we ran a HB screen was against Ole Miss on 3rd and long to the short side of the field. That's when I knew Crowton was dead in the water. IMO, he's gone by game 6 this year.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:30 am to
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Now, I do agree that JJ DOES hold on to the ball too long but I'll chalk that up to not wanting to go down the JL road. No harm no foul. However, Crowton HAS to stop calling plays were 3 WRs and a TE all run 30yd routes. That shite was pissing me off last year. We NEVER had a back leak out of the backfield. The one time we ran a HB screen was against Ole Miss on 3rd and long to the short side of the field. That's when I knew Crowton was dead in the water. IMO, he's gone by game 6 this year.


this, is whats hurting us, its holding the offense back and it was frustrating as hell, everything else I cant argue, i agree..
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:34 am to
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this, is whats hurting us, its holding the offense back and it was frustrating as hell, everything else I cant argue, i agree..


I'll NEVER complain about a QB being too safe. McElroy was the epitome of a safe QB. The big difference was Bama could run the ball down people's throat no matter how many people were in the box. If we had that ability last year we may have been undefeated.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:35 am to
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JJ DOES hold on to the ball too long

I saw a lot of disrupted plays where D was coming and you could tell there was no time to set. He bailed out of a lot of those and made plays, and some the DE was on him when he backed out. He looked like a QB having 0 confidence with
the interior line. Flat out refused to step up, like I ain't gettin no where near that shite. He seemed more confident when rolling out in the open.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:37 am to
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Mayhawman


ok, if you want to know what and who I blame the most ill break it down, i dont blame the O-line 100% and say they suck like many others did...I watched the lines and they gave plenty of time most of the time....now were they spectacular, far from it...they were an ok line, no more no less..

40% Crowton (horrid, vanilla play calling)
40% JJ (reason for the Horrid calling)
20% line (suffered b/c of the horrid p/c)

Defense suffered b/c of play calling as well, but they didnt help themselves out by not applying pressure and trying to get off the field.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:39 am to
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40% Crowton (horrid, vanilla play calling)
40% JJ (reason for the Horrid calling)
20% line (suffered b/c of the horrid p/c)



This is insane. Anyone who doesn't AT LEAST have the o-line and JJ even if fricking nuts. The o-line didn't give us a running game WHATSOEVER.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:40 am to
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and some the DE was on him when he backed out

like i said not a QB, a line is supposed to be coached to form a pocket, that means you haev to be comfortable having alot of guys all around you trying to hit you...you have to step up in the pocket to avoid a left tackle trying to push a DE further back.
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Flat out refused to step up, like I ain't gettin no where near that shite.

he's skeered...said it a million times.
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He seemed more confident when rolling out in the open.

well lets just ask the defense to give our QB time to throw and see if they'll agree
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 10:44 am
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:43 am to
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The o-line didn't give us a running game WHATSOEVER.

thats because the had all 11 guys withing 15 yards of the ball, they ran bump and run, nickel packages and 7-8 men in the box. show me 5 guys that can consistently block 7-8 men...D-Coordinators did not respect the QB we had. so they forced us to throw by putting all their eggs in one basket to stop our run. they did it.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:44 am to
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thats because the had all 11 guys withing 15 yards of the ball, they ran bump and run, nickel packages and 7-8 men in the box. show me 5 guys that can consistently block 7-8 men...D-Coordinators did not respect the QB we had. so they forced us to throw by putting all their eggs in one basket to stop our run. they did it.



How the frick was Bama able to do it then?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:47 am to
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Jesus Christ!!! what a freakin excuse!!! now I know your insane!


Aren't you the excitable one.

You said "with two years of starting experience"...didn't you? Well, for JJ two years starting comes in 11/10.

You keep :beatdeadhorse: the JJ thing all you want, but he's our best hope at this time and your pissing on him is not gonna change that, but carry on with your bitch fest.

Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 11:03 am to
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#1 JJ wasnt a Freshman this year he was a soph.
#2 he wasnt a 1st year starter, he started 3 games last year
#3 answer to your question Sam Bradford

1. full year starter dipshiet
2. i was comparing him to Garret, why would you want to replace an experience QB with a freshman QB
3. he was a full time starter in 2007 (10-3) against North Texas, Utah State , Tulsa, Iowa State....and the teams that he plays against are UNRANKED

LINK
compared to JJ
LINK
you got to give JJ an edge...why dont you critize him after this year
you can add Vince Young to the list but he's VINCE YOUNG.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 11:08 am to
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How the frick was Bama able to do it then?

two TE sets, power formation (in which they ran play-action pass from, very important) with two running backs from god...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 11:10 am to
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Lonnie4LSU

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but he's our best hope

hope + 4 million isnt good...
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 11:11 am to
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two TE sets, power formation (in which they ran play-action pass from, very important) with two running backs from god..



Bama's play-action meant dick to their offense. They didn't scare anyone with their passing. Teams loaded the box on them all year long. They found a way to run the ball. LSU should have checked Parsons in as a TE all year long to help the o-line. Coaching failure.
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