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re: JJ and Co. ranked 5th at QB position according to Chris Low
Posted on 7/21/10 at 3:47 pm to TIGRLEE
Posted on 7/21/10 at 3:47 pm to TIGRLEE
Right. Pretty even on yardage, with Jefferson being eight percentage points ahead in accuracy (51% to 59%) and way ahead in TD:Int ratio (16:17 for Lee, 23:8 for Jefferson)
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Posted on 7/21/10 at 3:51 pm to LSUROCKS52
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roger, apparently throwing pick 6's is way worse than not being able to move the chains/put points on the board.
Depends on the situation, I would say at least two pick sixes cost LSU the game in '08. Or potentially cost LSU a game. I would also say that not moving the chains last year cost LSU every game they lost last season.
An average offense and LSU may have won the conference last season. What LSU's qbs need to do is be able to better check off receivers more quickly and make the reads, get rid of the football in an intelligent manner. Neither does this at the present time.
On third down, you have to get beyond the chains. If you go back and look at the drives LSU had last season, only one or two decent drives a game, sans a game or two.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 3:58 pm to Antonio Moss
Another thing for people to ponder.
In 2008, we averaged 368.1 yards per game, ranked #55.
In 2009, we averaged 304.5 yards per game, ranked #112.
If you take LSU's rushing averages for 2008 and use them for the 2009 offense, LSU would have averaged 348.5 yards per game and been ranked #70. Not great by any stretch, but much better than #112.
Furthermore, this doesn't even take into account how a quality rushing game can open up the passing game.
In 2008, we averaged 368.1 yards per game, ranked #55.
In 2009, we averaged 304.5 yards per game, ranked #112.
If you take LSU's rushing averages for 2008 and use them for the 2009 offense, LSU would have averaged 348.5 yards per game and been ranked #70. Not great by any stretch, but much better than #112.
Furthermore, this doesn't even take into account how a quality rushing game can open up the passing game.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 4:13 pm to Antonio Moss
Given the context, the game situations I will pretty much say that stats are worthless in comparison. You would think a diminished ground game would have led to massive amounts of passing yardage, but that didn't happen either. JJ throws "safe" passes to primary receivers, and that isn't necessarily obvious from the stats. More risk would have meant more yardages, but more turnovers most likely.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 4:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You would think a diminished ground game would have led to massive amounts of passing yardage, but that didn't happen either.
Not necessarily. Especially when you have situations like last year when teams would literally only play 6-7 in the box at a time and have 4-5 dropped in coverage. We couldn't get movement on the line last season and everyone in the league knew it.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 5:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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JJ throws "safe" passes to primary receivers, and that isn't necessarily obvious from the stats. More risk would have meant more yardages, but more turnovers most likely.
hmmmm, pretty much what I said few hours ago.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 5:43 pm to Antonio Moss
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Not necessarily. Especially when you have situations like last year when teams would literally only play 6-7 in the box at a time and have 4-5 dropped in coverage. We couldn't get movement on the line last season and everyone in the league knew it.
We are seeing two totally different things on film. LSU had reasonably open receivers last season that were not utilized.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 7/21/10 at 5:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Just wanted to pop in this thread again
Posted on 7/21/10 at 5:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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LSU had wide open receivers last season that were not utilized.
others refer to that as having a qb that lacks the ability to read defenses.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 5:54 pm to TIGRLEE
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others refer to that as having a qb that lacks the ability to read defenses.
From watching the games a couple of times, I would say this is the problem with both QB's that manifests itself in different ways. I am not sure any QB will grow much under the current system without outside influence.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 5:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I prefer to blame it on youth than coaching.
This is the money year for JL, JJ and GC.
If those two qbs still look lost, then ill jump on the coaching bandwagon.
This is the money year for JL, JJ and GC.
If those two qbs still look lost, then ill jump on the coaching bandwagon.
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