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re: Jefferson is Seriously Limited.

Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:09 pm to
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it may have been his best deep ball ever, but if Randle wasn't so completely open, it probably would have not been a touchdown.


The reason Randle was so competely open was the look-off job that JJ did while stepping up into the pocket (something that JJ haters claim he can't even do).

He just can't win with you guys.
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 1:10 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:09 pm to
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is this thread about Yates?

didn't think so, its about Jefferson being severly limited, which he is


he did it all last night. his big weakness is his relation to the pitch man on the option.

he showed he can make ALL the throws. he showed he can scramble. he showed he can make fast decisions. he showed he can lead the team to victory.

Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34377 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

It was a great throw and a great catch. Jefferson stepped up in the pocket and delivered a strike.
meh, it was still underthrown. I am glad the play worked, but if you didn't see the fact that Randle had to stop at the goal line to make a play at the ball, then you are pretty foolish
Posted by cheesey
Member since Mar 2004
280 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:11 pm to
I would trade our current qbs for any qbs at LSU since Trimble and Billy Broussard.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34377 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

he showed he can make ALL the throws.
1 50 yard pass, 1 20 yard pass and the rest under 10. that isn't really making all the throws
quote:

he showed he can scramble
quote:

he showed he can make fast decisions.
quote:

he showed he can lead the team to victory.
PP lead the team to victory
Posted by oldfan
houma,la
Member since Dec 2008
225 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:18 pm to
So what you are saying is a qb that throws three 15 yard passes and has a great pass percentage is a good qb?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:18 pm to
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1 50 yard pass, 1 20 yard pass and the rest under 10. that isn't really making all the throws


You're right. He didn't make a 49 yarder, 48 yarder, 47 yarder, etc. How dare he

He showed that he has the arm strength to hit every route on the field.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:19 pm to
quote:


So what you are saying is a qb that throws three 15 yard passes and has a great pass percentage is a good qb?


As long as his average is above 7.0 ypa I'd say he's a good QB. If he can get it closer to 8.0 ypa I think he could be REALLY good.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23373 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:21 pm to
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1 50 yard pass, 1 20 yard pass and the rest under 10. that isn't really making all the throws


That's false.


Anyways Ridley, Shep, and Jefferson all ran for over four yards a carry.


Can someone make a gif of the intentional grounding play?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:21 pm to
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Can someone make a gif of the intentional grounding play?



is it on youtube? it was pretty bad and i think jefferson thought he had a RB in the vicinity.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34377 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:22 pm to
quote:


He showed that he has the arm strength to hit every route on the field.
so long as the reciever is so ridiculously wide open, that when he underthrows it, he can still stop to catch the ball before the defender gets there
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34377 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:23 pm to
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That's false.
my bad, he also had an 11 yd pass play
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23373 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:23 pm to
quote:


So what you are saying is a qb that throws three 15 yard passes and has a great pass percentage is a good qb?




Well if a guy has a decent ypa and a 70+ completion percentage that should move the chains all day. You basically get 3 downs to move ten yards. So it is fine. We should have leaned on him more, but we got conservative.
Posted by oldfan
houma,la
Member since Dec 2008
225 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:25 pm to
JJ has the tools and could have been a big time qb at lsu, but iam thinking that he is told before he goes into a game Dont lose it for us! and with the lack of developing him and others on this team its not his fault. look where polini is in the polls and you tell me who should have stayed and who shoould have left
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23373 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:25 pm to
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quote:
That's false.
my bad, he also had an 11 yd pass play


He has a 51, 21, 16, and 11 yard completion. There were also at least one dropped pass that was over 10.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

so long as the reciever is so ridiculously wide open, that when he underthrows it, he can still stop to catch the ball before the defender gets there



Even Breesus underthrows 55 yard bombs sometimes.

One during the Dallas Saturday night game that Devery didn't catch b/c it was such a dead duck.

One during the Cardinals playoff game that Devery did catch but was easily an uglier and more underthrown ball than JJ threw.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 1:28 pm
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

so long as the reciever is so ridiculously wide open, that when he underthrows it, he can still stop to catch the ball before the defender gets there


The pass that Toliver missed was a 20yd fricking laser over the middle into tight coverage.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34377 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:28 pm to
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This is comical coming from a guy with a Saints avatar. Brees routinely underthrows long passes - I remember two to Devery off the top of my head.

One during the Dallas Saturday night game that Devery didn't catch b/c it was such a dead duck.

One during the Cardinals playoff game that Devery did catch but was easily an uglier and more underthrown ball than JJ threw.
LINK

But let me guess, you were praising Brees and blaming Devery on both of them.
I fail to see why you are bringing Bree's into this. Ihave never claimed that Bree's has great touch on the deep ball. But the things Brees is spectacular at are the exact things that JJ does poorly. Just for this comment, next time I see you, you are getting a cup check
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:29 pm to
More importantly you can't expect LSU to sling the ball around with a 20 point lead going into the 4th quarter. We tried to pound the rock and did VERY well outside of the fumble issue.

UNCs front seven was no joke either. They're legit. It's their secondary that was in shambles.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34377 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 1:30 pm to
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He has a 51, 21, 16, and 11 yard completion. There were also at least one dropped pass that was over 10.
and the rest of his passes TOTALED 51 yards, thats not good, whatever way you want to look at it
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