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re: is anybody really happy??

Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:46 pm to
I was at the spring game and the booing of Jefferson after a bad pass was upsetting to me. Then the loudest cheer was when Mett came into the game. If I was Jefferson I would have stood up and gave those bandwagon fans the bird.Jefferson and Lee have gave the tiger nation the best they could on the field. Why is it that everyone wants to think Lee is deserving more then Jefferson. Only thing I can come up with is the color of their skin.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:48 pm to
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If JJ was a better qb than JL we wouldnt be having this conversation.. you do realize that dont you?
Then why are we having this conversation?
Posted by ELLESSHOU
covington, la.
Member since Aug 2004
394 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:51 pm to
I am very, very happy and proud of this years LSU Tigahs!! I have been watching the Tigahs since I was 9 yeaars old..in 1958....IMHO...this is the best LSU football team in my lifetime. as for Jarrett Lee...if there is a classroom problem..coach Miles would never tell the public..just like he handles all the other situations that arise. On the other hand...think of bama's defense..what gives them the most problems? Answer..a QB that does not sit still....see Georgia Southern and some of our plays from the last game. JJ will have to be accurate on Jan 9. I think that the game will be won or lost by his performance. Geaux Tigahs!!
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:51 pm to
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Meh.

One may be marginally better than the other. That's neither here nor there. The discussion relates to the "grown man whining" about playing time for their favorite. As with most of the discussion involving JJ/JL, it really has little to do with those two and mostly concerns our below-average IQ fanbase.


bullshite.. what I jsut said is the problem here.
One,, as you said "may be mariginally better than the other" I accept that.. but not enough to abandon one and go strictly to the other.
THAT IS THE ISSUE, many fans have with this situation.... throw in the fact that Lee started 8 games, played admirably and above most people expecations (even his haters) and it even makes it worse.
WHy cant you come to terms with that?
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:52 pm to
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hen why are we having this conversation?


Because your poster boy isnt any better of a qb than my poster boy...

I know you try to post these cute little charts every day of your life, but the fact is JJ went 5-13 for 30 yards in his NEXT TO LAST GAME he will EVER play in as a LSU Tiger... and as a senior to boot.. 3 year starter.
He's not a good qb.. he isnt BETTER than JLee.
Yeah he is more athletic and can do things JL cant, but on the same token he takes things awayfrom the offense when he is n there that JL has proven he can do better.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 1:56 pm
Posted by ELLESSHOU
covington, la.
Member since Aug 2004
394 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:54 pm to
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Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42166 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:56 pm to
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WHy cant you come to terms with that?


Why can't you come to terms with understanding that the guy who makes the decisions doesn't agree with you. He doesn't owe you an explanation. And he already said that he doesn't give a damn about fans opinions.

You need to deal with it and quit crying. You would think by now you would realize how ridiculous your whining and crying is.

For the love of god, why does it matter to you who plays? You are out of control
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:00 pm to
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One,, as you said "may be mariginally better than the other" I accept that.. but not enough to abandon one and go strictly to the other.


If Miles feels that Jefferson gives us a better chance against Alabama (which is really the reason for this choice), I can't say that I disagree with him. If he had decided that Lee was the better choice, I may not agree, but I certainly wouldn't cry about it.


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THAT IS THE ISSUE, many fans have with this situation....


Many stupid fans.

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throw in the fact that Lee started 8 games, played admirably and above most people expecations (even his haters) and it even makes it worse.


Not really, Lee played great until Alabama. Miles made a change that he felt was in the best interest of the team. So far, its worked.

There is no logical argument against this decision. The only "arguments" (and I use that term loosely) are based on irrational emotions.

It's much like arguing with a tween female. You can teach her about plot, character development, consistent themes, etc., but at the end of the day, she's just going to stick her fingers in her ear and yell that "Breaking Dawn is the best movie EVA!"




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WHy cant you come to terms with that?


Because it's not based on anything substantive. It's emotional grandstanding, nothing more.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:00 pm to

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Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42166 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:05 pm to
You are out of control.

Why does it matter so much to you about who starts? You are in near meltdown mode.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:05 pm to
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WHy cant you come to terms with that?


I suppose for the same reason you can't come to terms with the fact that it's a coaching staff decision as to who plays/when/how much and they probably have a reason for anything they do that they will never share with you.

I'm backing their call and enjoying the ride and I would do/say the same if JJ hadn't played a down this season.



Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
68752 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

If Miles feels that Jefferson gives us a better chance against Alabama (which is really the reason for this choice), I can't say that I disagree with him. If he had decided that Lee was the better choice, I may not agree, but I certainly wouldn't cry about it.


i think it was this thread that I stated early I have no probelms with LM starting JJ vs alabama,, I too think he gives us betterr chance to beat them.
However this isnt what this thought process is about.
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Many stupid fans.

Why?? because you disagree with them that makes them stupid??? thats a common fricking theme amongst the superjefferswag crowd..
quote:

Not really, Lee played great until Alabama. Miles made a change that he felt was in the best interest of the team. So far, its worked

not really what? I sadi JL started and played well for 8 games..Outside of bama we couldve beaten the rest of those teams with an offesive lienman undercenter.
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There is no logical argument against this decision. The only "arguments" (and I use that term loosely) are based on irrational emotions.

No its not...
The logical descion is this.. through 8 games things were hunky dory around here.. JJ comes in to pick a sturugling JL up at bama, (sorta like JL did for JJ last season vs tenn and fla) only differnece is JL is fricking history.. gone,, forgotten.. that is the issue people have... ;WHY IS THAT SO HARD FOR YOU TO AT LEAST ACKNOWLDEGE?
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Because it's not based on anything substantive. It's emotional grandstanding, nothing more.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.s.... you are right . Nothing I just posted has any substantial basis.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:08 pm to
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I suppose for the same reason you can't come to terms with the fact that it's a coaching staff decision as to who plays/when/how much and they probably have a reason for anything they do that they will never share with you.


It's an emotional issue with TigerLEE. That's all you need to know.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:12 pm to
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You are in near meltdown mode.


Only when it comes to you.
Yes, you are THAT annoying.

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Why does it matter so much to you about who starts?

You dont even know what the frick we are talking about.
"WHo starts" isnt even the conversation........ you dumb fricking twatt.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:13 pm to
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If JJ was a better qb than JL we wouldnt be having this conversation.. you do realize that dont you?


they're equal...so it shouldn't matter
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:15 pm to
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Why?? because you disagree with them that makes them stupid??? thats a common fricking theme amongst the superjefferswag crowd..


No, it's because their "disagreement" isn't based on anything tangible. It's emotion driven, which is a characteristic of less intelligent people.

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not really what? I sadi JL started and played well for 8 games..Outside of bama we couldve beaten the rest of those teams with an offesive lienman undercenter.


"Not really" as in Miles doesn't owe anything to Lee.

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No its not...
The logical descion is this.. through 8 games things were hunky dory around here.. JJ comes in to pick a sturugling JL up at bama, (sorta like JL did for JJ last season vs tenn and fla) only differnece is JL is fricking history.. gone,, forgotten.. that is the issue people have... ;WHY IS THAT SO HARD FOR YOU TO AT LEAST ACKNOWLDEGE?


And your argument isn't that its an emotional issue?

You seem awfully emotionally invested in this non-emotional issue.

The bottom line is that people want to see Lee play some significant snaps, not because it's necessary or needed or gives us a better chance to win, but because they believe it's fair and "the right thing to do."

And that is clearly an emotional rationalization.



quote:

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.s.... you are right . Nothing I just posted has any substantial basis.


Agreed.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 2:23 pm
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:16 pm to
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It's an emotional issue with TigerLEE. That's all you need to know.


No, its not.
I suppose if you keep telling yourself and others that enough, eventually you believe it.
What I just posted earlier makes perfect sense.
You know it does.
The fact that you and others will not acknowledge what I just said,.. and what many other LSU fans have said, is exactly what keeps this going.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 2:19 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42166 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:20 pm to
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No, its not.


Lolwut

Your posts are nothing but whining about fairness. It definitely is mainly emotional to you.
Posted by Jdawgz
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2009
631 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 3:10 pm to
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