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Interesting with recent Guice allegations, apparently new federal rules come into play

Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42367 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:01 pm
when investigating these type claims going forward


Among the changes made to LSU’s sexual misconduct policy, will be to shift the investigator’s responsibility from a determination role to a “fact-finding” role. It also requires that the university provide cross-examinations in front of a hearing panel during investigations, with both parties required to have a third-party adviser. The hearing panel will now determine disciplinary actions rather than the sole investigator.


“What it shows is an opportunity for one party to be represented by counsel while the other party may choose someone who is not counsel (such as a family member) to be their adviser,” says LSU Title IX coordinator Jennie Stewart. “So, I would be concerned from across the country that socioeconomic equity may come into play in these cases.”

Title IX is a federal gender-equity law that mandates university investigations in cases of alleged sexual harassment, assault and rape by students. The U.S. Department of Education changed the rules for these investigations last May in order to “offer an equal right of appeal for both parties.”

Other changes include no longer having universities investigate sexual misconduct that occurs in off-campus apartments or during study-abroad trips. The new regulations also eliminate the designation of “mandated reporter” for most university employees, meaning they are no longer required to report sexual misconduct allegations that they hear. The language behind what constitutes sexual misconduct has also changed, requiring that evidence be “clear and convincing” rather than “more likely than not.”
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70095 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:04 pm to
Wouldn't our adherence to the rules as they were at the time matter more than the rules going forward?
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6608 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Wouldn't our adherence to the rules as they were at the time matter more than the rules going forward?
Yes.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28184 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:29 pm to
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“offer an equal right of appeal for both parties.”

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Other changes include no longer having universities investigate sexual misconduct that occurs in off-campus apartments or during study-abroad trips.

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eliminate the designation of “mandated reporter” for most university employees, meaning they are no longer required to report sexual misconduct allegations that they hear. The language behind what constitutes sexual misconduct has also changed, requiring that evidence be “clear and convincing” rather than “more likely than not.”

Sounds like it makes the process more fair if I’m reading it right.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6608 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:31 pm to
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Sounds like it makes the process more fair if I’m reading it right.

You are correct. The new regulations provide more due process rights to the accused party.

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The language behind what constitutes sexual misconduct has also changed, requiring that evidence be “clear and convincing” rather than “more likely than not.”
This is not true. The standard of proof can be changed - it is not required.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 7:11 pm
Posted by shaqdaddy
Member since Jan 2014
139 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:18 pm to
The new regs are prospective and do not apply to Guice.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:19 pm to
I can't see where any of that would help a female who claims to have been passed out drunk? might help the other girl.
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