re: Interesting Read About Les Leaving Ok. State

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then a coach always bails on his kids when he takes a new job.

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Unless the kids get to leave when this happens it is bailing.....what is bs is if a player wants to transfer (to what he thinks is a better situation for him) he has to sit out a year and that same coach who could sign his release won't sign it.

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My thing is that yeah, the kids will be upset, but if the coach is man enough to face those kids before he leaves, why in the hell would you tell him no? Makes zero sense to me.

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what would it really accomplish? at the end of the day he still left them for a better gig. Just look at the business world sometimes people leave for a better gig and are allowed to work their final 2 weeks with no hard feelings and other times the company they are leaving says GTFO.

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Unless the kids get to leave when this happens it is bailing.....what is bs is if a player wants to transfer (to what he thinks is a better situation for him) he has to sit out a year and that same coach who could sign his release won't sign it.

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I agree 100%, but it's not the coaches fault that the NCAA Nazis hold players hostage.

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what would it really accomplish? at the end of the day he still left them for a better gig.

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Probably only closure for the players and the coach, but what's wrong with that? There are going to be hurt feelings and rightfully so, but if the outgoing coach is willing to talk to the players and ease the hurt a bit...it helps the program that he's leaving I would think.

Just look at the way Kelley left Cinci. No goodbye, no closure, tons of hurt feelings and they fell apart in the sugar bowl. Not saying that a final speech from Kelley prevents this, but it's a wash at worst.

I see no problem with okie state not allowing Miles to address the team. He left and isn't their coach anymore. I think when Nick left MSU he had to send his wife to clean out his office. Maybe it's a good omen for future LSU FB coaches.

I dont blame OSU. Gundy needed to be seen as the coach. He was an OC under Miles, and the image of letting his old boss come and address his team would be a bad first image.

The season was over, the new season was starting, recruiting was going strong. No need for Miles to go back.

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Ah Yes! I remember the event well. Most of it is true with a lot of polish to hide the real problem. T. Boone Pickens didn't like Les Miles because he would not jump at every little whim of the arrogant rich man. In fact, Pickens said months after Miles left that he was going to recommend Les Miles be fired. Actually, Miles is a far better coach than Gundy will ever be. LSU knows that and so does many other great football teams. Gundy could not get another job now if his life depended on it.

Pickens and Gundy were the undercurrents for Les Miles and it was good for him that he had the oppotunity to leave. As for OSU, we are stuck with Pickens, Gundy, and a naive OSU alumni that think the sun sets in both of them. Unfortunately it doesn' and OSU will continue bad judgements on weak administrative policy and a university run by one man. This has been a good year for OSU but don't put it up against the last five years because there is a lot of scare tissue.

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that's spot on from a OSU fan.


Trout we know you're bias and don't care. You like Gundy so much go live in anonymity in Okie State

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that's spot on from a OSU fan.

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So he is correct? One fans comments

so I could pick one of the LSU fans comments on the rant and say that what they think is how it is. Think about what your saying.

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You like Gundy so much go live in anonymity in Okie State

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OBU Dan posted how great Miles was at OK St. (and he has posted many times as a pro miles supporter) so me posting that in fact Gundy has a better record and questioning if MAYBE he is a better coach is somehow wrong? I could careless about Gundy....just posing a question. Is it not debateable? Miles gets all the credit for OK. St. success when Gundy not only was his OC but has made them better since Miles left.

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Maybe you'll get a chance to find out real soon.

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What does that mean?

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and you do nothing but rip Miles so the stupidity all evens out

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I give miles credit when he deserves it and call him out when he messes up so I ask what is a more realistic vantage point....

The fan who says Miles can do no wrong?
The fan who says Miles can't do anything right?
Or me the one who stays in the middle?

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nah been the word for about 6 years now

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So since ONE fan has stated this it is absolute fact? I am sure you could find fans that counter his position....no differnt than how fans on here have a position and others oppose it.

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"New Coach Les Miles hired former Oklahoma State QB & former Maryland WR coach Mike Gundy, as his Offensive Coordinator"

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When Miles was hired at OSU I thought he and Gundy were both being interviewed for the head coach? I may be wrong

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When Miles was hired at OSU I thought he and Gundy were both being interviewed for the head coach? I may be wrong

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How many Big 12 Schools have hired a mid tier college position coach as a Head Coach?