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re: I'm curious, playoff question
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:33 pm to nicholastiger
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:33 pm to nicholastiger
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They reward conference champs as they should
Oh really? What about division champs?
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:04 pm to 225Tyga
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UGA vs ND this year proved my point about last years 4 playoff teams not being the best 4 teams in the country. Which is what the playoff is for. How is this so difficult for you people
It's difficult because it looks like you're arguing FOR a system that...
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puts the best 4 teams against one another to determine the champion
And then you go on to say...
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That didn't happen last year
and then...
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most likely wont happen this year either
But then...
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we know who the best 4 teams are
So are you really advocating for a system that you admit didn't get it right last year, and probably won't get it right this year?
Really? That's the best system IYO?
I'm saying your very points prove that relying on opinions to make up the field is inherently flawed, and therefore is not the best system, while you're arguing that relying opinions is inherently flawed, and the best system.
I'm afraid you may have some special needs that aren't being met.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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So are you really advocating for a system that you admit didn't get it right last year, and probably won't get it right this year?
Tard...im advocating for a system that puts the best 4 teams in a playoff regardless of record or resume etc...last year they did not do that and this year it wont happen again because THEY DONT chose the best 4. They chose the 4 most deserving or undefeated etc..
Watch, at the end of this season there will be some teams who are undefeated, outside of the SEC that will get in the playoff that ARE NOT the best teams in the country.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:31 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:if you don't have auto bids, then you have to have some mechanism for selecting the teams.
How do you know who the best 4 teams are?
Opinions?
It's done for at-large bids for the NCAA basketball tournament, FCS football playoffs, college baseball playoffs, etc. Are those tournaments also flawed???
Unless all playoff bids are auto bids, you HAVE to have a mechanism for selecting at-large bids, and a serious committee comprised of serious people is FAR preferable to silly voter polls.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:42 pm to 225Tyga
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im advocating for a system that puts the best 4 teams in a playoff regardless of record or resume etc...
Can you describe such a system that can objectively determine who the best 4 teams are for the playoff?
Obviously you're saying that the current one isn't working.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:47 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Bigger question is why does Alabama get in even with one loss no matter what?
Recruiting
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
You can tell by watching the fricking games. It’s really not that hard.
I’m telling you they want a reason to incorporate diversified teams from all over the country to generate the most interest. I don’t blame them but it just sucks that it’s this “difficult” to get the best 4 teams in a playoff
I’m telling you they want a reason to incorporate diversified teams from all over the country to generate the most interest. I don’t blame them but it just sucks that it’s this “difficult” to get the best 4 teams in a playoff
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:18 pm to atltiger6487
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if you don't have auto bids, then you have to have some mechanism for selecting the teams.
That's right, and that mechanism will always be subjective and prone to bias. That's why I promote an auto-bid tournament of champions.
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It's done for at-large bids for the NCAA basketball tournament, FCS football playoffs, college baseball playoffs, etc. Are those tournaments also flawed???
Yes, but the fields are so large, that the bias tends to be minimized. With only 4 or 8 teams, the bias is problematic.
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a serious committee comprised of serious people is FAR preferable to silly voter polls.
A serious committee IS a poll, albeit a smaller, less inclusive poll.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:21 pm to 225Tyga
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You can tell by watching the fricking games. It’s really not that hard.
So while it's not hard, it's possible to implement?
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it just sucks that it’s this “difficult” to get the best 4 teams in a playoff
I agree, it does. What also sucks is that conference championships, which used to mean something, have been rendered meaningless.
Top 8 conference champs in a tournament of champions.
It's fair, objective, unbiased, simple and easy to implement. It also brings back meaning to conference championships.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:36 pm to cra_cra
LSU vs OSU, return of the King, start hyping it now baws.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:24 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:but there can be deserving teams that aren't conference champs. Everyone knows this is true.
That's why I promote an auto-bid tournament of champions.
quote:there's no way you can compare a silly media or coaches poll, where people throw together their votes with minimal analysis, to a committee that spends weeks poring over massive amounts of data.
A serious committee IS a poll, albeit a smaller, less inclusive poll.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:34 pm to Brazos
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Come on man an undefeated defending national champion would ever be left out and they shouldn’t be. I say they shouldn’t be because they have proven time and time again that they belong in the playoffs.
"Shouldn't be"?
I guess I use logic too much in my life. IF I'm on the committee, and a team goes 3-1 against top 10 teams, they are getting in versus a team that didn't play anyone at all.
What Clemson did last year is irrelevant. Who they played this year, and how they played this year IS relevant. And I'm always going to reward teams that are out there playing difficult teams and not making excuses for "NOT playing anyone".
You put the 4 best teams in. PERIOD. Committee members should be watching the games closely. That's their job. Clemson would easily have 1 loss in the SEC west this year. So yeah, let's reward them for playing no one.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:34 pm to cra_cra
Whoever wins the SEC
Posted on 10/1/19 at 5:51 am to cra_cra
quote:i understand your point, but dont completely agree.
What Clemson did last year is irrelevant.
If a team proves last year that they’re clearly the best, and they return a lot of their starters and recruit very well, it’s fair for people to assume they’re going to be, once again, an elite team.
Now of course, they have to show it on the field, but they’re going to get the benefit of the doubt, based on what people know about them, and a lot of that comes from last year’s performance. And I don’t think that’s completely wrong.
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