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re: If Jefferson and Johns are innocent

Posted on 8/26/11 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/26/11 at 12:47 pm to
what conspiracy are yall talking about?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15342 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Don't quote me on any of this, but a friend who knows someone on the team told me they are saying some of the younger guys were responsible, but they don't want to turn themselves in. Not sure what the truth behind this is.

If (if) that's true it's kinda unusual that they're all being represented by the same lawyer. Usually lawyers don't represent two defendants where each defendant blames the other one for committing the crime - it's a possible conflict of interest.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22516 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

so JJ and JJ#2 are fall guys?


quote:
Again, FWIW


hey, could be true



I have no clue. All I was told is that there have been team meetings to discuss this but the younger guys who could have been responsible don't want to implicate themselves.

To me, this would seem like it would be the opposite...have young, no-name guys take the blame to let JJ walk.
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Don't quote me on any of this, but a friend who knows someone on the team told me they are saying some of the younger guys were responsible, but they don't want to turn themselves in. Not sure what the truth behind this is.

So younger guys did this, and JJ was standing there (because we hear "Jeff", and eyewitness say it was him), which means he saw who did it. And he's not prepared to turn in the younger players that he obviosuly saw? For what insane reason would he allow homself to go down like that?

We saw the kick. JJ was identified by 3rd parties. A search and arrest warrant was issued by a judge who had all the facts.

Kinda a no-brainer at this point
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

and JJ was standing there which means he saw who did it.


another good point
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:15 pm to
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but they wouldn't bring these charges forth without having reasonable cause


All this means is more than one witness has identified him. That's all it takes.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

and JJ was standing there which means he saw who did it.



another good point



Over the past week you've been by far one of the worst posters.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25139 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:16 pm to
Trial wont be over til after the season, so its likely wont matter for lsu football.

On a purely personal note, I wish JJ all the luck he needs to get over this and move on with his personal life.

Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32837 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:17 pm to
no one can tell who's doing anything in that fricking video.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

no one can tell who's doing anything in that fricking video.





The old man OP can though.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13880 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:18 pm to

Arrests have been made. Celebrate as you will.
But remember that the "victims" asked for it, and they got it. F them.
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

no one can tell who's doing anything in that fricking video.

The eyewitnesses were not watching it on video. Just saying.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

no one can tell who's doing anything in that fricking video.


The eyewitnesses were not watching it on video. Just saying.




Which ones? The one-sided reporting of the "marine" witnesses or the other witnesses that hold conflicting reports?
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
7913 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

It's bigger than just that. This Conspiracy includes Jarret Lee, and maybe aliens.




There might be something with the CIA too, but details are still forthcoming from team sweep.

Posted by Coastietiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
390 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:38 pm to
Because of the Felony charges. Not everybody has integrity.
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Which ones? The one-sided reporting of the "marine" witnesses or the other witnesses that hold conflicting reports?

The ones that say JJ did it, as opposed to the other ones that cannot seem to point out anyone who did? There was no eyewitness of any kicker, not named JJ.

All they had to do was give a name. They couldn't. "I didn't see JJ kick anyone" is not an eyewitness account. It just means your attention was diverted when he did. We all saw that there was a kicker. All someone had to do was name him. They didn't.
Posted by Mike The Human
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2011
16 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:49 pm to
They aren't innocent. None of them are innocent. I understand a bar fight, when it is handled like a man. You don't kick people when they are down, no matter what, and you don't let your teammates do it either.

This is not a question of "since when are their rules in a bar fight". This is a question of morality and human worth. Each of the guys watching this happen is guilty.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 1:50 pm to
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The ones that say JJ did it, as opposed to the other ones that cannot seem to point out anyone who did? There was no eyewitness of any kicker, not named JJ.



So they have to know every person at the bar?
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

So they have to know every person at the bar?

No, but their descriptions would have to match up

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Group #1 eyewitnesses: I saw a defenseless guy get kicked

BRPD: Can you identify the assailant?

Group #1 eyewitnesses: JJ

- - - - - - - - - -

Group #2 eyeswitnesses: I saw a defenseless guy get kicked

BRPD: Can you identify the assialant?

Group #2 eyewitnesses: He didn't look like JJ

BRPD: That's not a lot of help, thank you.
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