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re: I know this has been discussed b4 but....
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:17 am to King Joey
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:17 am to King Joey
quote:
If it had turned out worse, we may not have ended up in a bowl game at all.
and if the airplane were not invented, there would be no airplane crashes...but, it was, and there are...
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:19 am to hondapa26
quote:LittleJerry was the one who brought up the 7-5, not me.
you thought we were 7-5 when we are actually 8-5
quote:Can you?
you made a mistake...you can admit it!
Or are you another one who insists that it's not even possible that Les was right and you are wrong about this?
Simple question: do you believe it is even possible that you might be wrong about the decisions on Jefferson?
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:20 am to hondapa26
quote:Not surprising. I was afraid that leaving the 3rd grade level of discussion might lose you. Oh, well.
i really don't feel like reading the rest of that novel that you wrote me...
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:23 am to hondapa26
quote:Do you not understand that this is not even the question?
Here is the deal. JJ>>>>>>JL
The question is, was JJ 8 weeks ago>JL 8 weeks ago? Or 10, 12, 18 weeks ago?
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:24 am to King Joey
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He could have picked up the offense earlier and gained the confidence and control that he displayed last night and led us to 9, 10 or even more wins
OK...now I am done with you...You are obviously a ranter if you truly believe this! Tom Brady could not have helped us earn enough points to offset/overcome what our defense gave up this year. Ole Miss, Florida, Georgia, and Bama beat us fair and square...there is now way that a different QB would have changed that.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:27 am to King Joey
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The question is, was JJ 8 weeks ago>JL 8 weeks ago? Or 10, 12, 18 weeks ago?
Great question...Too bad no one could possibly answer this b/c JJ was not put in a Game for an extended amount of time until the Ole Miss game. I don't count the Tulane game because he handed the ball off 7 times.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:30 am to King Joey
quote:
LittleJerry was the one who brought up the 7-5, not me.
Oh Gawd! Now you are blaming it on him??? What I find funny is, you did not correct him! Hmmmm?
ranterPosted on 1/2/09 at 12:30 am to hondapa26
quote:
You are obviously a ranter if you truly believe this! Tom Brady could not have helped us earn enough points to offset/overcome what our defense gave up this year. Ole Miss, Florida, Georgia, and Bama beat us fair and square...there is now way that a different QB would have changed that.
We lost to Bama in OT. One more point (or 1 less pick 6) could easily have changed the outcome of that game. Arkansas we almost won anyway, a little better QB play could have easily changed that outcome as well. That would have been 10 wins (counting the bowl). Ole Miss would have been much tougher to change, but IF we could have had a QB playing like we did last night (which, while possible, would obviously not be guaranteed) we just might have been able to keep up with the scoring our defense was allowing. Georgia would have been probably even tougher (since they probably could have put even more points on our defense if they'd needed to) but it's within the realm of possibility. Florida would be unrealistic of course. Any speculation there would have to the "anything's possible" variety that doesn't count.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:31 am to King Joey
quote:
Do you not understand that this is not even the question?
you failed to read the rest of my post...guess you didn't make it out of the 3rd grade either.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:32 am to King Joey
quote:
Not surprising. I was afraid that leaving the 3rd grade level of discussion might lose you. Oh, well.
Good one...
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:33 am to King Joey
quote:
Simple question: do you believe it is even possible that you might be wrong about the decisions on Jefferson?
very possible...
SIMPLE QUESTION: Will anyone ever know the answer to your question?
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:33 am to hondapa26
quote:That's pretty much my point. There is no way to know for certain what the result of putting in a different QB (especially a true freshman). That means putting them in for any significant amount of PT means risking losing a game you might otherwise win. Balancing that risk with the potential benefits is one of the many things coaches like Miles are paid (and, apparently, qualified) to do.
Too bad no one could possibly answer this b/c JJ was not put in a Game for an extended amount of time until the Ole Miss game.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:35 am to King Joey
quote:
Arkansas we almost won anyway, a little better QB play could have easily changed that outcome as well.
THIS JUST IN:
JJ started in this one.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:36 am to hondapa26
quote:I'm not "blaming" anyone for anything.
Now you are blaming it on him???
quote:There was nothing to correct. We were 7-5. Then we won a bowl game to go 8-5. But since we were talking about the part of the season where Jefferson didn't play as much as y'all seemed to think he should have, the bowl game didn't seem very relevant. So why should I correct him when he referred to our 7-5 season as a 7-5 season?
What I find funny is, you did not correct him!
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:41 am to hondapa26
quote:Of course not. If it were "knowable" then coaching wouldn't be hard. What makes it hard is that you have to make a choice based on what you think the answer is. Miles (apparently) thought the answer was "no." Since we understand that no can ever know for certain, all we have is speculation and opinion. And his speculation and opinion have more credibility than anyone else I've heard.
Will anyone ever know the answer to your question?
quote:Well, that is a relief. Believe it or not, I've actually had people insist that it is not possible that they were wrong. Glad to know I'm not dealing with that kind of crap here.
very possible
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:42 am to hondapa26
quote:Yes, but the possibility I was contemplating was that if he had played significant time earlier in the season he could theoretically have been better by the time the Arkansas game rolled around, and thus played even better than he actually did. As I mentioned, even a slight improvement at QB (like anywhere else) would have been enough to win that one.
JJ started in this one.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:44 am to King Joey
because we did not have a 7-5 season...we had a 8-5 season. And, you correct everything else! Had you realized this one, you would have corrected it as well.
Goin to bed...tired of arguing with ya! You do make some good points though...I'd have a beer with you anytime to argue about some LSU football! I just can't wait for next year!!!!
Goin to bed...tired of arguing with ya! You do make some good points though...I'd have a beer with you anytime to argue about some LSU football! I just can't wait for next year!!!!
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:46 am to hondapa26
and, I still disagree with you about the Holliday thing. We DO NOT utilize him as we should...JUST SAYIN.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:48 am to hondapa26
quote:That's for damn sure. We argue which one was worse all day long, but it's pretty clear that the QB play and the defense were the weaknesses for this year's team. And signs point to both those being fixed in '09!
I just can't wait for next year!!!!
quote:Well, I won't argue with the beer!
I'd have a beer with you anytime to argue about some LSU football!
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:50 am to hondapa26
quote:If I were the coach, I'd agree with you 100%. I'd like to see him get 8-12 touches with at least 3 or 4 of them being passes downfield.
and, I still disagree with you about the Holliday thing. We DO NOT utilize him as we should.
But, Les has those rings and I . . . well, don't.
So I take his word for it.
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