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re: I have read a variety of idiotic opinions on this site

Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:56 am to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:56 am to
Ok Thomas, explain to me why Rivers or Randall should start.

Be specific please.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:57 am to
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Same here. It's kinda weird so many LSU fans are so hesitant to criticize Mett. Everyone else is fair game, except Mett. Strange really.


He has some flaws, but some of you are being drama queens.

No QB would be all SEC behind LSUs offensive line and with their WR's. Of the problems with the offense, I would put him 4th.

He has issues, but nothing as dramatic as the OP's whine.
Posted by ThomasDunson
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:58 am to
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Idiots try to talk about things they know nothing about. You should look in the mirror before calling others out.


Not really. Idiots simply complain about things without a solution. Fire Les. Fire Stud. Get new WRs. Change the O-line. Guess what, champ, none of that can change at this point. So your only choice is to try something at the one position that you can change.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:58 am to
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He has some flaws, but some of you are being drama queens.

No QB would be all SEC behind LSUs offensive line and with their WR's. Of the problems with the offense, I would put him 4th.

He has issues, but nothing as dramatic as the OP's whine.


Spot on.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:59 am to
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Fire Les. Fire Stud. Get new WRs. Change the O-line. Guess what, champ, none of that can change at this point. So your only choice is to try something at the one position that you can change.



Who are you going to put back there?
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 9:59 am
Posted by ThomasDunson
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:00 am to
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Ok Thomas, explain to me why Rivers or Randall should start.

Be specific please.



It's real easy guy, because the leader of the offense is not getting it done, period. Contributing factors aside, he is not getting the job done.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:00 am to

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Yea but they have/had phenomenal pocket pressence and field vision/awareness. They move effortless in the pocket - very subtle, but very key. Mett does not have this at all. Marino, Peyton, Brees, Brady, etc all drop back very quickly too. Mett seems to have an extremely slow dropback.
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This is killing us too.





Coaching problems. He did fine with the three step until the coaching staff decided we used up the quota or something.
Posted by ThomasDunson
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:01 am to
Scoopandscore, glad to know that there are other objective, sane and reasonable fans. I was going to waste some more of my time trying to educate people that QB mobility is not just being an RGIII or Mike Vick. To the idiot that says Peyton is not mobile, how many times in his career was he sacked? How many picks has he thrown. Go look it up. Maybe while doing that you can figure out what playing QB is all about (hint: its not just arm strength).
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:03 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:01 am to
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Not really. Idiots simply complain about things without a solution. Fire Les. Fire Stud. Get new WRs. Change the O-line. Guess what, champ, none of that can change at this point. So your only choice is to try something at the one position that you can change


So just make a change at QB just for the sake of change? Got it. Don't worry about the real issues (O line, no go to receiver). Got it. Just, um, change QBs. Then receivers will begin catching and the O line will suddenly block better. Got it. Solid plan.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:01 am to
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No QB would be all SEC behind LSUs offensive line and with their WR's

Come on now.

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Of the problems with the offense, I would put him 4th.

With an offense this horrible, how can the QB be only 4th in order of responsiblity for it? Because of his weaknesses, we have to run the ball on 3rd and long. Or do stupid gimicky stuff when we get the ball first and goal at the 7. He is struggling BIG TIME right now. And what's even more troubling is that we don't have another QB we can turn to. We simply don't have a legit backup QB. That's as embarrassing as anything else wrong with this offense.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:01 am to
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So your only choice is to try something at the one position that you can change.

So trying new WRs is not an option?
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:02 am to
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He did fine with the three step

His 3 step drop almost gave me heart failure a few times.

ETA: The only possible solution I see is to put him back there in the shot gun with 3 or 4 wides. And do a hurry up or quicker tempo offense. Force him to speed up a little bit.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:05 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259939 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:04 am to
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His 3 step drop almost gave me heart failure a few times.





He is fine, the staff just needs to work around his limitations, which is his offensive line, WR's and his pocket awareness. LSU hasn't had a QB in years who didnt fit the bill, and there isn't one on the roster who is going to do better.



This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:05 am
Posted by ThomasDunson
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Member since Jan 2012
278 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:05 am to
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So just make a change at QB just for the sake of change? Got it. Don't worry about the real issues (O line, no go to receiver). Got it. Just, um, change QBs. Then receivers will begin catching and the O line will suddenly block better. Got it. Solid plan.


Ok, cas4t, who do you suggest we play on the line? What WRs should play? Why can't we even run the ball?
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:05 am to
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there isn't one on the roster who is going to do better.

This is what's so depressing as a Tiger fan. Why can't we find a good QB?
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7272 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:06 am to
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To the idiot that says Peyton is not mobile, how many times in his career was he sacked? How many picks has he thrown.

Manning was sacked 22 times and threw 28 interceptions in his rookie season. I know Mett isn't quite a rookie, but pretty damn close.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259939 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:06 am to
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No QB would be all SEC behind LSUs offensive line and with their WR's

Come on now.


Dude, if you ain't got it by now there is no hope for you. It isn't the QB's. We have been complaining about them for years. It's the coaching staff.

No QB would be "successful" enough for LSU fans in this current offense
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:08 am to
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What WRs should play? Why can't we even run the ball?

Our players aren't as good as we hype them up to be. Our RBs are decent but none of them look "special". Same with the WRs. None of our skill players are making any big plays on their own, with their own special talent. Makes you wonder if they have the ability.
Posted by ThomasDunson
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Member since Jan 2012
278 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:08 am to
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ETA: The only possible solution I see is to put him back there in the shot gun with 3 or 4 wides. And do a hurry up or quicker tempo offense. Force him to speed up a little bit.


Amen. FWIW, I was hoping that being down 8 @ FLA we would see this out of necessity. I agree this is probably the best option, but he seems to lock on so get ready for some picks.

On this point, you can fairly criticize the coaching philosophy because his limitations are exaggerated by the offensive philosophy of running game with a passing complement. But that's a philosophical difference, and it sure seemed to work for 14 games last year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259939 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:08 am to
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This is what's so depressing as a Tiger fan. Why can't we find a good QB?



We do. We have found plenty of good QB's. The program is a QB killer.

We have lost quite a few good WR and QB prospects who previously committed. Wonder why
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