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re: Honest question regarding 2011 QB's
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
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When did this happen. There are thousands of threads slamming JJ. I don't remember a single thread starte about JLee in 2011.
You cant be serious there were plenty of JLee criticism threads talking about his footwork and his being scared to get hit. Not to mention the poster who kept posting how JJ was as good or better than Tebow from the WKY game to the Ga game but not after the NC game.
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Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:16 am to Rudy40
quote:
fan bois
Dude you are so fruit.
and full of shite.
I said JJ was the best option vs Bama before the season started.
Like anybody else threw on Bama? They allowed like 110ypg and you think a magic Dana-fairy would turn LSU into WVU over the course of a month with a 0 starts QB and just open up that Gump D. LOL.
quote:I give them both their due. Check a few posts back.
JJ criticism is unjust but criticizing Lee is fine.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:26 am to Mayhawman
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Like anybody else threw on Bama? They allowed like 110ypg and you think a magic Dana-fairy would turn LSU into WVU over the course of a month with a 0 starts QB and just open up that Gump D. LOL.
No but a qb who a defense actually thought could complete passes downfield would have at least had a shot.
Or are you going to argue that both in the CC game and the NC game UGA and Bama didnt completely sell out to stop the run and had no fear of JJ beating them with the pass????
Versus GA LSU got bailed out by TM7 on special teams and forcing turnovers to set up short TD drives but unfortunately he wasnt able to do so versus Bama.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:30 am to Rudy40
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there were plenty of JLee criticism threads talking about his footwork and his being scared to get hit.
and screenshots! don't forget the screenshots!
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Not to mention the poster who kept posting how JJ was as good or better than Tebow from the WKY game to the Ga game
well that dude was a fricking troll nut job. I kinda wanna read some of his stuff now.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:46 am to VC
I didn't post on here at the time but I had criticized Jefferson for about 2 years prior to last year and there were some real douche's that were pumping him like he was a Heisman candidate and you also had the group that had the mentality of "he's a young man, representing this university, getting a college education and it just wrong to boo him" even though he was the worst LSU QB of my lifetime and they would say "you're not a real fan if you criticize your team"
My response, if you are a real fan you would be proactively showing your displeasure with the incompetence that was displayed in the handling of our QB situation the last 4 years, we were the laughing stock of college football in the QB category. Of course Miles is responsible in the end for all the hate Jefferson received because he refused to treat him in the same manner as Lee and continually put him in the game. I still believe there is a booster out there that had something to do with Jefferson starting.
My response, if you are a real fan you would be proactively showing your displeasure with the incompetence that was displayed in the handling of our QB situation the last 4 years, we were the laughing stock of college football in the QB category. Of course Miles is responsible in the end for all the hate Jefferson received because he refused to treat him in the same manner as Lee and continually put him in the game. I still believe there is a booster out there that had something to do with Jefferson starting.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:47 am to ATLTiger
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Personally I didn't think either should have seen the field in 2011
Ya know, that statement seems retarded when you have two senior quarterbacks, but if you think back to 2011, and how the games actually unfolded, we'd have still been undefeated going into 1/9. It's not only an "oh, what might have been", but it's also a "no way anyone beats us in 2012" thing had Mett played last year.
Till my last breath on planet Earth, I will never understand CLM's reasoning on JJ/JL. But, I'm also a CLM fan, think he's a great coach, and will have to just give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to that decision. He had to have seen something that made him believe JJ gave us the best chance to win.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:49 am to VC
Don't worry about the pricks that post about banning, their usually stuck up posters that think they are entitled because they have been posting for 40 years
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:54 am to Ghostfacedistiller
"I'll bite to an extent...I wanted to trust the coaches that they know more about their players than we the fans know."
Which takes us back to the career progression or should I say non-progression of JJ and his absolute comical performance even in 2011's spring game and the subsequent fabricated comments from the coaches of how well he looked in the spring and summer practices. 99.9% of fans and the rant fell for it, .1% of us didn't.
Which takes us back to the career progression or should I say non-progression of JJ and his absolute comical performance even in 2011's spring game and the subsequent fabricated comments from the coaches of how well he looked in the spring and summer practices. 99.9% of fans and the rant fell for it, .1% of us didn't.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:56 am to amiznit
"This. People need to realize that both QBs had major faults."
How do we know Lee had faults? He hadn't played since 2008.
How do we know Lee had faults? He hadn't played since 2008.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:59 am to Hurricane Mike
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Hurricane Mike
I see you getting that post count up, playa
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:03 pm to Rudy40
quote:Wilson season 148.35 L 14-38, Brantley 140.83 L 10-38.
No but a qb who a defense actually thought could complete passes downfield would have at least had a shot.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:15 pm to Mayhawman
So you dont think having a qb in the game who could actually threaten Bama's defense with the pass would give LSU a better chance of winning?
I am talking about LSU who had talent that could match up with Bama not another lesser talented team? Alabama had a very good pass defense but I think it is silly to think that a qb who was not a passing threat would be a better option against them.
I am talking about LSU who had talent that could match up with Bama not another lesser talented team? Alabama had a very good pass defense but I think it is silly to think that a qb who was not a passing threat would be a better option against them.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:16 pm to Rudy40
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Or are you going to argue that both in the CC game and the NC game UGA and Bama didnt completely sell out to stop the run and had no fear of JJ beating them with the pass????
You realize they did the same with Lee on 11/5, right? The book on Lee is simple: pressure him. Bama did and he threw 2 quick INTs.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:21 pm to Hurricane Mike
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Which takes us back to the career progression or should I say non-progression of JJ and his absolute comical performance even in 2011's spring game and the subsequent fabricated comments from the coaches of how well he looked in the spring and summer practices. 99.9% of fans and the rant fell for it, .1% of us didn't
What is there fall for? Congrats on being a cynical assclown. First of all, none of us have a say in the decision either way so our opinion is of zero consequence. So yeah, I gave the benefit of the doubt to those whose job it is to recruit, evaluate, and employ talent instead of endlessly bitching and pissing into the wind. It's not inconceivable that JJ would have made strides between the '10 and '11 seasons. In the end, it didn't win a NC.
This post was edited on 7/10/12 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:23 pm to amiznit
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You realize they did the same with Lee on 11/5, right? The book on Lee is simple: pressure him. Bama did and he threw 2 quick INTs.
Sure he had a bad 10 plays versus Bama on 11/5 would he have played better if he wasnt worried about being yanked for JJ at any minute or would he have come back and played better in the 2nd half no one can say. If Les's requirement for benching a player for the rest of the season was throwing 2 INT's in a short time then we would have never seen JJ after the 2010 Tenn game who by the way had a much worse defense than Bama.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:26 pm to Mayhawman
The Arkansas post got me to look at stats. The most telling stat on JJ last year to me was 8/38 when losing. 8 completions on the year when losing. Maybe that's why people remember his performances differently. What I remember about the Arkansas game is LSU's offense sucking until TM7 made three huge plays on a punt return and a forced fumbles/recovery. Plus LSU rushed for 286 yards on the day.
This post was edited on 7/10/12 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:51 pm to Hurricane Mike
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"This. People need to realize that both QBs had major faults." How do we know Lee had faults? He hadn't played since 2008.
Because he had shitty games in 2011. Oregon, Kentucky and Bama. Both qbs were limited.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:54 pm to Rudy40
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Or are you going to argue that both in the CC game and the NC game UGA and Bama didnt completely sell out to stop the run and had no fear of JJ beating them with the pass????
No they didn't. This is a complete an false myth from jan 9th. I've seen the all 22 film from jan 9th. Bama was not loading the box. they were beating our oline with a regular front seven.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 12:55 pm to Hurricane Mike
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My response, if you are a real fan you would be proactively showing your displeasure with the incompetence that was displayed in the handling of our QB situation the last 4 years, we were the laughing stock of college football in the QB category. Of course Miles is responsible in the end for all the hate Jefferson received because he refused to treat him in the same manner as Lee and continually put him in the game. I still believe there is a booster out there that had something to do with Jefferson starting.
You must have thought Flynn really sucked then.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 1:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
When did Matt Flynn put up 4 yards of total offense when playing the majority of the game? Or which game did Flynn play the entire first half and led LSU to 0 first downs. Or where is the Flynn quote after an LSU loss saying he played well but the team didnt execute????????????
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