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Hey "POS-itigers" If it happens over & over, it's a pattern
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:19 pm
(Let me preface this again by saying that this whole Nega-Posi-Tiger crap is putrid horse feces.)
Last year, we played crappy after the Bama game and were lucky to come away with a W against Troy. The same Troy that got skull drug by Okla State & lost to ULM. This year, we need penalty aided TD drives to survive La Tech High School.
We are last in nearly every offensive category in the SEC. THis means that in the aggregate, week to week we produce less than every other team in the SEC, i.e. a pattern of ineffectiveness. Two of our TD vs Moo U were by the D or ST.
Crowton has NOT been hiding the offense for the past two years. A methodical, orchestrated offense with a clear identity is not going to suddenly jump out of Gary's rectum. It is what it is. (sic) This is our offense. Line up in the gun or I-formation, then come out in 5 wide, then a little Wild Tiger, then some pistol. No cohesion, no tendency breakers. It's the SOS week after week. It's a pattern. Our only consistent scheme is NO scheme.
We are squandering very good talent. Lafell, Tolliver, Randle, Shepard, Williams, Holiday, Dickson, Peterson. Holy shith!!!
We have scraped by the skin of our teeth. It's not Jefferson's youth. I imagine a decent OC would have been able to devise a scheme to maximize his effectiveness.
It's not limited to GC, Stud the Dud is also to blame. Pitiful development of the OL. McCarthy has done little with the WR talent as well.
So go ahead and label me a Negatiger while you bury your head in the sand. This is LSU Fighting Tiger football and I for one am not pleased with where we are and where we are headed unless things change.
Miles is a good man, an excellent recruiter and has many great attributes. However he is still proving himself to many objective, well intentioned, LOYAL, supportive and knowledgeable Tiger fans and alums.
Last year, we played crappy after the Bama game and were lucky to come away with a W against Troy. The same Troy that got skull drug by Okla State & lost to ULM. This year, we need penalty aided TD drives to survive La Tech High School.
We are last in nearly every offensive category in the SEC. THis means that in the aggregate, week to week we produce less than every other team in the SEC, i.e. a pattern of ineffectiveness. Two of our TD vs Moo U were by the D or ST.
Crowton has NOT been hiding the offense for the past two years. A methodical, orchestrated offense with a clear identity is not going to suddenly jump out of Gary's rectum. It is what it is. (sic) This is our offense. Line up in the gun or I-formation, then come out in 5 wide, then a little Wild Tiger, then some pistol. No cohesion, no tendency breakers. It's the SOS week after week. It's a pattern. Our only consistent scheme is NO scheme.
We are squandering very good talent. Lafell, Tolliver, Randle, Shepard, Williams, Holiday, Dickson, Peterson. Holy shith!!!
We have scraped by the skin of our teeth. It's not Jefferson's youth. I imagine a decent OC would have been able to devise a scheme to maximize his effectiveness.
It's not limited to GC, Stud the Dud is also to blame. Pitiful development of the OL. McCarthy has done little with the WR talent as well.
So go ahead and label me a Negatiger while you bury your head in the sand. This is LSU Fighting Tiger football and I for one am not pleased with where we are and where we are headed unless things change.
Miles is a good man, an excellent recruiter and has many great attributes. However he is still proving himself to many objective, well intentioned, LOYAL, supportive and knowledgeable Tiger fans and alums.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:21 pm to JohnnyU
So, in the Les Miles era, we have a pattern of winning 10+ games, losing less than 3, and finishing ranked in the top 5?
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:24 pm to JohnnyU
why does the offense always get all of the focus? To me, it's more understandable that our offense is struggling. JJ is inexperienced. He can't yet find secondary receivers, and his long ball is almost nonexistent. The O line is also weak. The defense however, is giving up way to many rush yards, and our scheme puts very little pressure on QB's. Chavis is an improvement, but I would rather a DC whose schemes put more pressure on the QB's.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:27 pm to JohnnyU
You forgot to mention we have lost two+ starting quarterbacks the last two years. NEGATIGER
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:28 pm to Stevo
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why does the offense always get all of the focus?
Haven't you heard? The measure of a team is solely based on their offensive ranking. I hear it's replacing the Harris Poll next year in the BCS.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:35 pm to Hot Carl
So, are you saying that Les Miles is responsible for the offense? The whole 10 win "pattern" ended last year with 5 losses, several of which were genuine arse kickings.
Let's hope we win 2 of the last three and get back to the 10 win standard. REgardless, we are underachieving right now
Does that mean that Les really was winning with Saban's talent? Hmmmm.
Let's hope we win 2 of the last three and get back to the 10 win standard. REgardless, we are underachieving right now
Does that mean that Les really was winning with Saban's talent? Hmmmm.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:37 pm to LSUBEATLES
WTF are you talking about?
Jefferson has missed one game.
Whose fault was it that our roster had Hatch, Lee and JJ to replace RP? Did Les recruit any quality QB's to back up RP?
Hatch, what a farking joke.
Jefferson has missed one game.
Whose fault was it that our roster had Hatch, Lee and JJ to replace RP? Did Les recruit any quality QB's to back up RP?
Hatch, what a farking joke.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:38 pm to JohnnyU
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The whole 10 win "pattern" ended last year
Will you concede that 4 seasons is more indicative of a pattern than 1? Or even 2? If not, I cannot possibly continue the dialogue with such an intellectual inferior. Or someone who is just intellectually dishonet.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:40 pm to JohnnyU
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Does that mean that Les really was winning with Saban's talent? Hmmmm.
Signature thought pattern of a dumb arse
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:41 pm to Rickety Cricket
What about Larry Coker?
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:41 pm to JohnnyU
When LSU issues three arse whuppins in their next three games, will you please shut up?
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:41 pm to JohnnyU
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The whole 10 win "pattern" ended last year with 5 losses, several of which were genuine arse kickings.
If we have RP last year, it's a whole different season, even with the failed co-DC deal. You can't ignore the impact of the young QB's on our team's failures- losing to BCS #1 & 2 teams. Can you?
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:43 pm to MondayMorningMarch
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When LSU issues three arse whuppins in their next three games, will you please shut up?
would be nice, but I don't see us whipping arse in next 2 games. Will be happy just to win.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:44 pm to JohnnyU
Damn you, JohnnyU. I hate it when you people actually use sound reasoning and logic to get your points across. I think I will go bury my head back in the sand now.
For those that can look two weeks into the future and KNOW that LSU will win the last two games please give me some lottery numbers so I can win a lot of money.
For those that can look two weeks into the future and KNOW that LSU will win the last two games please give me some lottery numbers so I can win a lot of money.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:45 pm to Hot Carl
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So, in the Les Miles era, we have a pattern of winning 10+ games, losing less than 3, and finishing ranked in the top 5?
There's also two other patterns:
1. Recruiting talent, year in and year out, that several coaches could win multiple national championships with in the span of five years.
2. 4 years of 5 with no NC. (Granted, if not for Refbarn in 2006 there might be another one.)
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If we have RP last year, it's a whole different season, even with the failed co-DC deal. You can't ignore the impact of the young QB's on our team's failures- losing to BCS #1 & 2 teams. Can you?
I think Johnny already said it, but where's the other QB? Hell, how do you know Perrilloux doesn't get suspended or heaven forbid injured? Even if we assume he's not kicked off the team, it's still poor planning to bank on one kid, especially once it becomes clear the kid's a liability...
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:48 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Signature thought pattern of a dumb arse
perhaps....
I'm not terribly insecure about my intellect so "is that all you got"
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:51 pm to lsutothetop
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Even if we assume he's not kicked off the team, it's still poor planning to bank on one kid, especially once it becomes clear the kid's a liability
link me to your posts complaining about recruiting Lee and Jefferson. You weren't complaining. Neither was anyone else.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:54 pm to Hot Carl
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Will you concede that 4 seasons is more indicative of a pattern than 1? Or even 2? If not, I cannot possibly continue the dialogue with such an intellectual inferior. Or someone who is just intellectually dishonet.
Will you concede that the man inherited a damn strong roster with a culture of winning already in place?
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:54 pm to JohnnyU
I agree with you on several points. First of all this positiger/negitiger BS has gotten as stale as our offensive production. Second, a point that needs to be reiterated strongly is why can't we adjust our playbook to the strengths of our QBs? JJ and JL have both been placed into a playcalling scheme which minimizes their strengths. Neither QB is an All-American but damn the playcalling seems to expose their weaknesses time and again. Other schools seem to adjust their offense to maximize the strengths of their players and minimize their faults. Why force our QBs into a playbook scheme from '07 that neither has the ability to pull off? I'm not suggesting a conservative scheme like we saw against UF, just adjust the plays to maximize the talents
Posted on 11/16/09 at 6:56 pm to MondayMorningMarch
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When LSU issues three arse whuppins in their next three games, will you please shut up?
Yes because we have been handing arse whuppins out all year
I hope we do but I wouldn't hold my breath with the offensive play calling
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