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re: Greatest Tiger by decade?

Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:47 pm to
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o being the best player in arguably college football history and forcing turnovers in meaningless in your eyes


I said ff records arent as prestigious as the main defensive stats. I never said meaningless.
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Forcing a fumble is pretty easy to attribute to a player....




No shite. Thats my point.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:49 pm to
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but facts arent subjective.



Yes they are....



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Hilliard's best season



1656 as A freshman with 16 td's...As usual..you are wrong.........
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:50 pm to
You said:

"Because no one considers forced fumbles as a stat that elevates players when comparing. Ff are also subjective as frick when they are given to players."
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:51 pm to
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. I never said meaningless. 


Your quote:

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As much as i love tm7 he doesnt own Ny lsu records that are meaningful in my eyes. Tackles,ints,tfl,sacks. Better?


K

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No shite. Thats my point.


What's your point? You said it was subjective. It really isn't

TM7 was a better player

Hell, he's likely the best Tiger in the modern era
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:54 pm to
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What's your point? You said it was subjective. It really isn't
yes it is. Defenders get credit for forced fumbles even when the player had nothing to do with the ball coming out besides tackling.

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As much as i love tm7 he doesnt own Ny lsu records that are meaningful in my eyes. Tackles,ints,tfl,sacks. Bette


Forgot. My bad
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:55 pm to
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You said:

"Because no one considers forced fumbles as a stat that elevates players when comparing. Ff are also subjective as frick when they are given to players."



I said my bad.
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:55 pm to
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1980's - Wendell Davis


Dalton Hilliard says hello...
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:57 pm to
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yes it is. Defenders get credit for forced fumbles even when the player had nothing to do with the ball coming out besides tackling.




Kind of like tackles?

Tell me which of his forced fumbles shouldn't have been attributed to him.

Hell, he recovered a good bit of them himself after ripping the ball from his opponent

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Forgot. My bad 


Forcing turnovers is the most important thing a defensive player can do.

TM7 is arguably the greatest at it in CFB history
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:59 pm to
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Hell, he's likely the best Tiger in the modern era


No.
LF actually set legit lsu records.

TM7 has ff lsu records.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:00 pm to
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No.
LF actually set legit lsu records.

TM7 has ff lsu records.




Who forced more turnovers in lsu history than TM7?

Honestly, it isn't even a close call between the two of them, and I love LF7.

TM7 is the best player in the lsu modern era and maybe ever. I've seen players show LF7's greatness every few years. I've never seen a player do what TM7 did in college football.

Forcing turnovers isn't "legit" or "meaningful" though. :Lol

Go finish coloring
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:03 pm to
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Forcing turnovers is the most important thing a defensive player can do.


No shite. Turnovers are the least predictable things in all of football. FF can be recorded with actually causing the ball to come out.

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Kind of like tackles?

Tell me which of his forced fumbles shouldn't have been attributed to him.

Hell, he recovered a good bit of them himself after ripping the ball from his opponent



But tackles isnt as big of a chance stat as FF. Come the frick on.

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7 is arguably the greatest at it in CFB history



Ok.


Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:05 pm to
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Who forced more turnovers in lsu history than TM7?



FF are a stat of chance.

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Forcing turnovers isn't "legit" or "meaningful" though. :Lol


I said FF. At not time did mention all turnovers. Good god.
Of course turnovers are important in football games.
I shouldn't have said meaningless. I was wrong for wording it like that.
I meant they were more random than other defensive stats.

Thats all.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:06 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:05 pm to
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FF can be recorded with actually causing the ball to come out.



Which one of his forced fumbles shouldn't be attributed to him?

I'll wait....

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FF. At not time did mention all turnovers. Good god. 




Seriously, you're being a complete idiot. Not sure why I'm surprised though.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:07 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:07 pm to
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Of course turnovers are important in football games. 


Answer this simple question:

Who was better in lsu history at forcing turnovers?

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:07 pm to
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Which one of his forced fumbles shouldn't be attributed to him?

I'll wait....


Im not going to look. For the 100th time, i was saying ff is a random situation.

At no time did i ever say turnovers were meaningless.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:08 pm to
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Im not going to look.


Should be pretty easy to find.

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For the 100th time, i was saying ff is a random situation. 




And at some point, it quits being random and becomes a trend.

That's the entire point. It is random by most players. TM7 did it routinely. It was expected and wasn't random.

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At no time did i ever say turnovers were meaningless.





Besides forced fumbles

Now answer my previous question
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:09 pm to
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Who was better in lsu history at forcing turnovers?



Answer this simple question:
Who was a better lsu rb than LF.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:10 pm to
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Besides forced fumbles


I said the stat of ff is meaningless when comparing it to the main lsu stats.

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Now answer my previous question


TM7. At no time did i say he wasnt.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:10 pm to
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No. LF actually set legit lsu records. TM7 has ff lsu records.


You are SOOO Stupid.... TM7 was THE most important piece for the BEST season Miles had at LSU.. Without him against BOTH ARKIE and UGA.. LSU most likely losses.... God you are A dumbass........... LF7 has NOT led LSU to ANY important wins... ZERO.................
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:11 pm to
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Who was a better lsu rb than LF.



No one imo.

I've never argued otherwise.

But thanks for answering the question Radio.

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