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re: Former Tiger Great, Ben Simmons on Tv tonight

Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2449 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:22 pm to
you speak of him like he was led us to the NIT tourney. GTFO here with that ben simmons nonsense. Couldn't even get us in the national invitational tourney.
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1487 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Who cares....he sure didn't care about LSU...doubt he will ever give anything back to the university....good riddance


Yeaa, this. Tiger Great? Hardly. Didn't care about anything but getting to next level as fast as possible. Dude was far from "clutch" in the critical times we needed him. Yea he usually got his, the numbers show that, but don't tell the whole story. frick that clown
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:34 pm to
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you speak of him like he was led us to the NIT tourney. GTFO here with that ben simmons nonsense. Couldn't even get us in the national invitational tourney.


Yes and of course this is the fault of the clearly best player on the team, Simmons. NOT the fault of the grown-arse man who was the head coach and who had been coaching for longer than Simmons has been alive. Some people
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:39 pm to
One of the GOAT Tigers
Posted by Le Bistouquette
Member since Oct 2016
192 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:41 pm to
Ben Simmons doesn't give a rat's arse about LSU.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2449 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:43 pm to
Ben took plays and games off. i was at every home game that season. He was at LSU for one reason and that was to get to the league. GTFO here. He didn't care about getting to the NIT. He quit before the end of the year.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Ben Simmons doesn't give a rat's arse about LSU.


False. He was and is a great Tiger. Could have played anywhere but brought his talents to BR. Shame he couldn't have played for a competent coach and a fanbase with a mean IQ above 50.
Posted by Le Bistouquette
Member since Oct 2016
192 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:45 pm to
What has he done that makes you think he gives a genuine care about LSU?
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2449 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:45 pm to
if his godfather was coaching at Nichols State he would have ended up there. He wasn't in Baton Rouge because it was LSU. Get over yourself.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:46 pm to
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gives a genuine care



Well he gets trashed on the daily by supposed fans of the team yet still shows love to the team on social media after big wins. He gets free exposure for LSU every time he takes the court. In short, he does more for LSU in a few hours on the court each night than you ever have.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:47 pm to
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if his godfather was coaching at Nichols State he would have ended up there. He wasn't in Baton Rouge because it was LSU.

OK? 99% of players choose schools because of a coach or coaches. He still came to LSU whether you like it or not. You think Tremont Waters came to LSU because he bleeds P&G?
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Get over yourself.

What?
Posted by Le Bistouquette
Member since Oct 2016
192 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:50 pm to
I doubt that.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2449 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:50 pm to
i said get over yourself. Meaning if you believe Simmons came to Baton Rouge because he loved the college life, loved the campus, loved the team, then your fooling yourself.

You need to watch the HBO documentary. He actually spoke negatively about the NCAA and college basketball. Great athlete yes, but was never in Baton Rouge for the reasons that your trying to make yourself believe. It was more than obvious.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Meaning if you believe came to Baton Rouge because he loved the college life, loved the campus, loved the team then your fooling yourself.


I never said he loved college life. He obvsiously didn't. It was a waste of his time, as he should have been in the NBA already. But he is still close with a number of his old teammates and still shows LSU love despite douche bags like you trashing him any time his name comes up. I don't think either you or I know how he feels about the campus. Why does that matter?
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He actually spoke negatively about the NCAA and college basketball.

Well, it's bullshite that he had to have a year between high school and the NBA. Obvsiously that's an NBA rule. But do you not agree that rule is bullshite? The guy was just speaking the truth. Why does that mean he hates LSU? It quite literally was a waste of his time, particularly when you consider the ineptitude of his head coach.
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reat athlete yes, but in Baton Rouge for the right reasons. It was more than obvious.

He was here because he couldn't go to the NBA. Like every single other one-and-done that has ever existed. This isn't rocket science.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:09 pm to
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It quite literally was a waste of his time


Exactly and it showed. With his talent (which I won't deny), we should have made the dance. Literally NO ONE would be bashing this kid if he'd gotten us there.
I personally sat and watched games in the PMAC where he looked as if he didn't give a shite at times. That's inexcusable. At least fake it.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2449 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:11 pm to
redtigerrulz you are 100% correct.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:11 pm to
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but if you're a generational talent like Simmons is supposed to be, you damn well should put the team on your back and lead them to wins.


How do you define this? Inquiring minds would like to know. Also, let's be intellectually honest here, LSU didn't succeed bigly from a W-L perspective that season for a plethora of reasons: inept head coach, injuries, bad breaks in some games, constant shifts in the lineup, and integrating new players into the lineup with veterans and executing a gameplan. When you take all that into consideration, it isn't all that absurd that LSU didn't make the NCAAs that season, Ben did his job well and was a first-team All-American it's unfair to pile on him what he couldn't control.

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In fact, he ran away from late-game big shots (Oklahoma, Marquette).


I don't perceive the necessity of shooting late-game big shots as being consistent with Ben's style of play though, he's a non-scorer distributor all-around player like LeBron and Magic Johnson and they possessed other clutch teammates by which to defer in those situations (LeBron-Kyrie, Magic-Kareem). Now if Ben was a Russell Westbrook/James Harden-type player, I'd agree with your premise but that simply isn't the case.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:14 pm to
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I personally sat and watched games in the PMAC where he looked as if he didn't give a shite at times. That's inexcusable. At least fake it.


LOL for a player being accused of this, Simmons sure compensated BIG-TIME that season submitting one of the greatest all-around freshman seasons in NCAA history and receiving first-team All-American honors.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:18 pm to
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Simmons sure compensated BIG-TIME that season submitting one of the greatest all-around freshman seasons in NCAA history and receiving first-team All-American honors.....all while periodcially being completely apathetic and uninterested


FIFY!

I would gladly have traded some of his gaudy numbers for a trip to the Dance....I'm not sure he would have been willing to do that.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:21 pm to
It's a breathtaking mental leap you have to take to be able to blame the best player on the team who put up historically good numbers for his team not making the dance. Do you read your own posts? How does that make any logical sense to you?
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