re: For those who claim that Chavis can't defend the spread....

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he's a clear downgrade from pelini

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Very untrue.

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go look at both of their career numbers and get back to me

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Guess it doesnt matter, Pelini left.

it really doesn't matter. chavis could be a great hire if some of the rumors about his assistants are true, but i think the quality of the hire is dependent upon that. the only reason for mentioning pelini is that he was widely considered as not good enough for LSU, which is humorous to me now that someone who runs a similar defense only not as effectively is coming in and he's a "great hire". i guess expectations have been lowered since the saban to pelini transition

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the only reason for mentioning pelini is that he was widely considered as not good enough for LSU, which is humorous to me

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I agree with that, but you have to realize the people your dealing with here. They think only God and Saban are good enough for LSU.

Well not every since this year it wasn't. Also, it is not an apples to apples comparison. Chavis has been playing against elite competition for 15 yrs (Spurrier with Whuerfell, Ike Hilliard, Jacquez Green, Riedel Anthony ring a bell?).

-The complaint you had against Chavis was exactly what got Pelini in trouble against UK & Ark last year. Did you watch the Kentucky game? Did you watch how we continued to just rush 4? That's scheme my friend.

Pelini has only been a true DC twice. Nebraska and here. Let's be honest Bob Stoops has a lot to do with the OU defense. Also, let's remember that OU got 55 rung up on them against SC in '04. The year Pelini was co-dc, if you would like to take credit for that.

So is only true stops were Nebraska in '03 & LSU '05-'07

Chavis is definitely on par with Pelini. You can't compare 15 yrs with 4.

Both have NCs & in Chavis' NC game he held the likes of Travis Minor, Peter Warrick to 16 pts.

First, let me say that I think Chavis is a good hire for you guys.

However, those stats of Tennessee against Florida are misleading. Urban was still running his ultra-conservative version of his offense (which also contributed to the loss to Ole Miss the following week). Brandon James and the Gator defense gave them a short field all day and the only thing that stopped the Gators from putting up more yards on Tennessee was the endzone. Demps and Rainey also hadn't emerged that early in the season yet.

That's nothing against Chavis and his ability to stop the spread, just that noone has been able to slow the Gator's offense this season. Save maybe Miami early in the season (go figure).

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Doubt the difference is that much.

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thanks

Tenn. still have great individual players but their depth is what has really hurt them.

For example,

Berry & Mayo

The days of Will Overstreet & John Hendersons have been long gone. So yes, the talent level is way different.

Also, that's fine if you claim FLA hadn't hit their stride yet. But that is no reason to discount the effort either. That being said, Saban is the best defensive coach in the country and he couldn't stop it. Therefore, my point is that you aren't going to find a lot better than Chavis with his experience. There is a reason he was offered by multiple programs to take the DC job. And the programs weren't New Mexico or NWST.