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re: "Doomed to always be a 2-loss team with Miles"

Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:21 am to
Posted by STBTigerr
Mandeville/New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
5364 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:21 am to
Per D. Byrd:

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I been said I wish he was still in big 12 but he is a great coach just not in SEC


Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5298 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:24 am to
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Hot Carl


Great post and frick Maximus
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:31 am to
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Just out of curiosity, if Miles isn't "your boy", who is? Who exactly do you cheer for? Are you an LSU fan?

First off, this is the dumbest question ive answered, you can be a fan of other coaches that are not at your school, I can be a fan of meyer and saban and still want LSU to beat both of those teams...I dont have the same hatred for saban that yall do...He left for the NFL, not for Bama...get over it..And I prob have more LSU gear than 95% of the people on this Rant, not saying im a better fan by having more stuff either, people driving in Houston, have no doubts that I am a tiger fan, been so since i was 10...
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 10:33 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:37 am to
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I dont have the same hatred for saban that yall do...



I don't hate Saban at all. Never have.

I just think it's funny that such a huge LSU fan hates the coach that will have gotten his team 50 wins in less than 5 years with a NC after this weekend.
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:38 am to
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With a coach with a top tier salary, the idea should be to be in a championship game every season; not merely win more than we lose. Whether it be SEC or National we should be able to compete for this every year. We should not settle for second tier or mediocrity in playing or coaching.

Arky,Georgia,Auburn,and Tenn fans are saying the same thing.
When you played,did ya'll win every game or district championship?
Please respond.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:47 am to
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LSU fan hates the coach that will have gotten his team 50 wins


Who said I hated miles?
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:51 am to
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I was looking for an in to post these comments and this provides it.
As I stated in a post regarding the outcome of the game, I'm just an Old Fart haunted by the ghosts of the past in the LSU-Bama series. For years under Cholly Mac, no matter how good LSU was, Bama always managed to be just a little better or have the breaks go their way and pull off a win. It was one of those series where Bama was the dominant team, just as say LSU-Miss. St or LSU-Kentucky.
The other team might get a run, such as LSU has had against Bama recently or MSU and Kentucky had against LSU in the '70's. But eventually the series reverts back to the pattern of the one team being dominant over the other as before.
The OU-Nebrasaka series also comes to mind here. For years OU dominated and Neb. couldn't win for all the rice in China.
It is just one of those series where one team has the other teams number and I fear that we may have reached that point in the Bama series again with the Little Prick coaching them.
This is not a knock on Les, or even a prediction of LSU falling from competing for SEC and NC honors, just an observer of history looking through clear rather than p&g colored glasses.
Under Les I believe that LSU will continually recruit as well as Bama and field teams as competitive as Bama. But, as before, as long as we're on just an even keel with them, it may not be good enough to beat them. And the thought of that absolutely makes me sick!

On the other hand,Bama may not be able to beat LSU either.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:17 pm to
op - hot carl bringing the rationality to the rant
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:27 pm to
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Being a 10-2 team isn't bad if you don't mind waiting for Bama to have an off year to win the west.
waiting has nothing to do with it. it just the cycle that now exists in the sec. no team stays on top. bama hasn't been in the elite this decade but now they are. lsu slipped a little but is still a very good team. these cycles are normal.

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9-3 or 10-2 will get Miles fired as well
that would be unprecedented and lsu would look like total dog crap if that happened
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:31 pm to
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I think the rub is that he is paid with the elite coaches in the league and the country, and don't want to get what is considered above average coaching/results
miles has consistently shown the ability to assemble a staff that is among the best in the country, despite what you read from rantards. that's worth a ton of money. oh, and he is doing much better than "above average results".

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Throw in Nick having Bama in the hunt just into his 3rd year
you think saban's going to keep them on top every season? highly unlikely. also, i'd be willing to bet that the more success bama has, the quicker his departure will be.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28033 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:32 pm to
Well if we win out, which can be done, that will be 4 out of 5 season we were 10-2. I will take that.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:34 pm to
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he was here for 5 years and took over a team coming off 2 losing seasons
yeah but that team had a significant amount of talent and was grossly underachieving.

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not one a year removed from a NC and LOADED with talent
why are you ignoring the fact that miles is still doing a great job? it's not like he's running the program into the ground. how about d. peterson, randle, shepard and p. peterson all getting p.t. and looking good doing it. the future is not bleak whatsoever
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:35 pm to
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as long as every 4 year stretch is exactly like 2005-2008 we'll be set
yeah because so many sec teams are able to sustain that level of success. NOT
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:38 pm to
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TigerFan55555


Why would you want to get rid of a coach with a record like Miles?
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:41 pm to
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Who said I hated miles?




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keep on making excuses for your boy miles, fact is he got whipped by a better coach, again...
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:44 pm to
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I dont believe for one second that he is an elite 4-millon dollar a year coach, if he wants to make that kind of money he should be in the top two in the SEC every year
name the sec coach that has EVER been able to sustain that kind of success

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I think miles is a great coach and an even better person, but this is about winning
then you should be very happy because miles wins more than the vast majority of his competitors.

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loyalty is suppose to be earned and I believe that he gives it to everyone...some who havent earned it...Ala JJ...
name the qb on the team that's better than jefferson. in fact, name the sec qb's who have a better pass efficiency rating than jefferson. name the sec qb's who can run better than jefferson.

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if you couldnt tell that that guy wanted no part of that game you are insane
you have an interesting perspective because for 3 quarters, nick saban's mighty defense was getting pushed around by jefferson, crowton and dumb ole miles

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I believe he could get the job done with the combo of his arm and his legs
like jefferson isn't "getting it done". friend, you need some perspective

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Urban Meyer 2-National titles, and maybe a 3rd in 4 years?
let's see how meyer does over the long haul first. he's got a long, long, long way to catch up to spurrier
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:51 pm to
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I think the problem most have with Miles is that LSU could be a 12-0 team or an 11-1 team playing for the national championships.
there's just nothing objective or rational to this statement.

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When you look at the way LSU has played, even though the record is good, you have to know they should be much better.
according to what? your perception?

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Everybody knew Shephard should have been getting more playing time.
no, everybody does not know that. shepard is a great talent but is often confused out there. not because he's not smart. because he's inexperienced. give the kid some time and stop with the unreasonable expectations.

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Shephard should have been getting quality touches much earlier in the season when LSU was playing some of the weaker teams on their schedule.
with the amount of talent lsu has, there was absolutely no reason for that. if we were hurting for players, then i would agree with you. no, we needed to get our starting offense as many reps as possible and not focus on gimmick plays with a promising athlete who has no experience whatsoever
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:19 pm to
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Why would you want to get rid of a coach with a record like Miles?


Not saying that I would want to get rid of him for say, I just dont like the way things are looking..I dont like his intuition, or the way he coaches, I like the get in your face make you do it coaches, not the I'm asking you to do it, kind of coaching...I like a hands on type coach, not a coach that is worried about the media or his shows or any book signings, (all that crap comes with winning, but a good coach stays focused on his team) i want a coach that is worried about his teams preperation, knowing there assignments, and putting the best players on the field...We just look so sloppy and that reflects on coaching...IMO I just dont like those CEO type guys, and I think he is turning into one....

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keep on making excuses for your boy miles, fact is he got whipped by a better coach, again...


again, where did I say I hated Miles?...I can think that Urban and Saban are better and not Hate the other guy..
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 1:23 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:20 pm to
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Wonder how Bama would have done if they lost McElroy,Ingram,and their best def player was cramping up?
i said exactly the same thing. 4th quarter, lsu is up 15-13. mcelory, ingram and mclain go down. lsu wins the game, no doubt.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:23 pm to
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NT in 5 years, (learn how to count) and he never had to rebuild, he was handed a winning program with a new winning attitude.
but he's done exactly what you want a coach to do; continue winning. alot.

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keep on making excuses for your boy miles, fact is he got whipped by a better coach, again
name the time when miles has EVER lost to a team like ulm, much less at home. what about UTAH? what are your excuses for that?
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