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re: Does UGA and the Florida Gators have more talent than LSU?
Posted on 8/17/08 at 3:18 pm to TheEdge
Posted on 8/17/08 at 3:18 pm to TheEdge
when you are such a threat to run, I would hope you can beat man coverage with 5-star WRs and when 90% of your passes are within 5 yards down field... he gets by on athleticism but is far from a polished passer...he looks like Dennis Eckersly in his delivery
With that said, no denying he is a player...he just needs to be happy that the threat of the run is so great and the talent is so great around him that it affords him/FL many favorable passing opportunities... the coaches have done a good job at setting him up to have success without having to be a dropback passer ..good system and good talent
With that said, no denying he is a player...he just needs to be happy that the threat of the run is so great and the talent is so great around him that it affords him/FL many favorable passing opportunities... the coaches have done a good job at setting him up to have success without having to be a dropback passer ..good system and good talent
This post was edited on 8/17/08 at 3:20 pm
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Posted on 8/17/08 at 3:20 pm to Derby Tigah
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90% of your passes are within 5 yards down field...
9.4 ypa
:fail:
Posted on 8/17/08 at 3:21 pm to 12gauge
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oh don't get me wrong, i don't mind trolling your retarded arse
but worthwhile discussion and logic? you're incapable
I'll take that as a compliment
Posted on 8/17/08 at 3:21 pm to TheEdge
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9.4 ypa
YAC
I have season tickets to FL games
Posted on 8/17/08 at 3:22 pm to Derby Tigah
Posted on 8/17/08 at 4:12 pm to Swampcat
UGA will be exposed and lose 3 games IMO. LSU, UF, and Tennessee or South Carolina.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 5:05 pm to Derby Tigah
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you mean as a sophomore?
no i mean after his junior year, when he was getting the same hype 365 days ago that stafford is now
Posted on 8/17/08 at 6:37 pm to Derby Tigah
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you're right... he is only projected as a Top 5 pick if he comes out in '09 in a couple early projections and mid-to-late first round in most ...terrible prospects
those rankings will change drastically between now and the draft, they do every year. that's why people keep replying to your stupid arse with andre woodson. i shouldn't have to write this, you should be able to figure it out on your own.....but you are way too stupid to handle that
and FWIW, he is rated so high right now purely on potential. his performance has been mediocre to this point. again, this should be common sense but apparently you can't grasp it
This post was edited on 8/17/08 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 8/17/08 at 6:44 pm to FtBelvoirTiger
You talkin women or football players?
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no i mean after his junior year, when he was getting the same hype 365 days ago that stafford is now
a) Woodson never got the hype relative to Stafford until maybe mid-season last year after he went the first part of the year playing extremely well with no pics and a lot of TDs through the game he beat us (stock plummeted steadily there after)
b) I was referring to Stafford, who you cannot compare to Woodson since he was a sophomore a year ago
This post was edited on 8/17/08 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:15 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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those rankings will change drastically between now and the draft, they do every year. that's why people keep replying to your stupid arse with andre woodson. i shouldn't have to write this, you should be able to figure it out on your own.....but you are way too stupid to handle that
and FWIW, he is rated so high right now purely on potential. his performance has been mediocre to this point. again, this should be common sense but apparently you can't grasp it
you mean it's not set in stone that Stafford will be a Top 5 pick next year?
No shite...I never predicted he would be a first round pick because so much can happen, including his health, etc...it's conjecture... the point was that SFP started by saying Stafford wasn't that good and based that on results from his true freshman and soph seasons. He has experience, supporting cast and talent to be more than capable this year as a junior, which is what the majority of analysts and scouts forecast other than SFP.
Why wouldn't you expect him to realize his potential now as an upper classman? ..the rest of the world does
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:29 pm to Derby Tigah
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Woodson never got the hype relative to Stafford until maybe mid-season last year
you're inventing history
woodson got PLENTY of hype this time last year
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who you cannot compare to Woodson since he was a sophomore a year ago
yes you can. you're talking about hype and projected draft status before the pre-draft year occurs
you're saying stafford is a top 5 pick next year based off what columnists and writers are saying
they said that woodson was a top 5 pick the next, a year ago
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:31 pm to Derby Tigah
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Why wouldn't you expect him to realize his potential now as an upper classman?
stafford plays in a dumbed-down offense that is based off a bunch of safe plays, and he still was not that efficient with the ball. he doesn't throw much more than a 5 yard slant, a go, a hitch, and various screens
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
what separates matt stafford from chad henne?
henne had a much better start to his career. had the cannon. was 6-2ish. had bad mechanics. etc
henne had a much better start to his career. had the cannon. was 6-2ish. had bad mechanics. etc
This post was edited on 8/17/08 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:47 pm to Derby Tigah
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nah, but the two are comparable ...Atlanta area is a beast and will continue to be ..Bill King says it right when he says it's a hotbed of nearly 6 million people... talent comes and will come from ATL
It'll be interesting to see how bad Katrina hurts Louisiana's talent from families that have left and will never come back, but that will be tough to realize obviously
Interesting observation about displaced families thanks to Katrina, but we were trailing the state of Georgia long before the hurricane hit. Anyone that denies that Georgia produces far more D-IA caliber talent than we do is only fooling themselves
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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woodson got PLENTY of hype this time last year
he wasn't even the highest regarded QB coming out of his state last year, not to mention the entire country ..don't exagerate... Stafford talent is a bigger commodity
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yes you can. you're talking about hype and projected draft status before the pre-draft year occurs
no, not apples... how many NFL scouts even knew who Woodson was after his sophomore year? He wasn't even the best QB at Kentucky at that point..Pulley had him beat out for the job until his problems in fall camp in '06. You're comparing an under classman QB with an upper classman QB
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you're saying stafford is a top 5 pick next year based off what columnists and writers are saying
I'm not saying that, people who know more about football than you are saying that
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:51 pm to Derby Tigah
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he wasn't even the highest regarded QB coming out of his state last year, not to mention the entire country
brohm was coming off another injury-plagued season and his stock dropped big time
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Stafford talent is a bigger commodity
how?
both have live arms
woodson is much more mobile and has NFL size
woodson is also more accurate and protects the ball better
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how many NFL scouts even knew who Woodson was after his sophomore year?
a ton
he had major hype before his sophomore year, then he did shitty and lost it. then he did well as a junior and was "top 10" again
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You're comparing an under classman QB with an upper classman QB
and according to you, stafford may go pro after this year, and that's what we're talking about
you can only compare pre-draft hype the year before the players are supposed to go
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people who know more about football than you are saying that
yeah, CFB writers
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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stafford plays in a dumbed-down offense that is based off a bunch of safe plays, and he still was not that efficient with the ball. he doesn't throw much more than a 5 yard slant, a go, a hitch, and various screens
so your stance is that there is no way to see how Stafford could be good? He hasn't even played half of his damn college career
Lets review the situation:
He's was highly recruited out of Dallas and is a top talent...he is on a top team with great run support and an above average supporting cast...he now has a full year of experience as a starter under his belt and is going into his junior year
Why are you so sure he will suck? My point that started this whole debate was that the rest of the world disagrees with you by evidence of his draft projections, etc.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:54 pm to Derby Tigah
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there is no way to see how Stafford could be good?
he could be good
he's shown nothing in college so far to say he's a good QB
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Why are you so sure he will suck?
he's got a HUGE step to take this year
he was just simply not that good last year
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My point that started this whole debate was that the rest of the world disagrees with you by evidence of his draft projections
and how many of them had matt ryan going top 5 before last year?
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what separates matt stafford from chad henne?
henne had a much better start to his career. had the cannon. was 6-2ish. had bad mechanics. etc
to this point? nothing
but you just said the key words yourself: Henne started his career great and finished poorly... since Stafford has only played two years, why can't he progress as expected and finish out the other half of his college career strongly?
The dude has played half of his college career and you are saying he's no good... that's really stupid and I'm not ready to shortchange him like that... now, if he fails this year then I would likely tend to agree with you, but not yet
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