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re: Did JJ look faster?

Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:37 am to
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You can't mean this. Crowton has been used repeatedly as the scapegoat on everything from climate change to Mike refusing to get in his cage.


i haven't seen it. i have seen JJ getting blamed for every offensive problem from last year though....in this thread actually
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:37 am to
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VS UF '10
JJ 142yds Total O
JL 124yds Total O



one of these things is not like the other,
one of these things has turnovers and no TD's.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:38 am to
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By I have noticed the play calling seems less confusing this year. There is a lot less miscommunication on the field.


Pretty simple, straight forward offense. Really liked the play action vs WVU. The offense ran it beautifully on a couple of situations.

Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33098 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:39 am to
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Would you rather just use Jefferson's and Lee's stats from just the last five games of 2010?

How about JJ stats from his first 5 in 10 to JL first 5 in 11. That sounds fair.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:39 am to
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Don't tell Just Me. JJ NEEDS him.
I didn't start the debate in this thread.

I stopped the JJ/JL debate until I was specifically addressed by name.


Compare how many times you attack me with how many times you attack someone who bashes Jefferson.

No. Don't do that. You won't like the results.

You'll try so hard to stay on the fence that you'll end up shoving it up your arse.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296967 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:40 am to
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i haven't seen it. i have seen JJ getting blamed for every offensive problem from last year though....in this thread actually



Because that is all you look for. People always look for things that validate their own POV
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 11:41 am
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:40 am to
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Because Jefferson got better. He learned. He improved.

If Jefferson did great at the beginning of 2010 and sucked the rest of the year, then you'd get no argument from me. However, he got better. He learned. He improved.


He degressed from 2009. He sucked most of the year in 2010. He had a DECENT game against bama, and 2 good games against terrible passing defenses in ole miss and texas a&m.....he did not have a good game against arky or ULM during that stretch. You take 3 games out of 13....and isoloate those games. How about I just isolate the WV game for Lee. I believe he had a passer rating of 234 that game. Geezus. fwiw, JJ did do worse in 2010 than in 2011. Unlike you, I look at a body of work, not cherry pick 3 games where he played ok.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:42 am to
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Crowton has been used repeatedly as the scapegoat on everything from climate change to Mike refusing to get in his cage.
There's the fence sitter for you.

Pretending that Crowton is a scapegoat for the offense.

As though Crowton was not to blame for the offense last year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296967 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:42 am to
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You'll try so hard to stay on the fence that you'll end up shoving it up your arse.


So you have a disdain for people who decide not to attempt to elevate one player over the other? Pretty fricking silly. And petty, which you are becoming more every day.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49090 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:43 am to
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one of these things is not like the other,
one of these things has turnovers and no TD's.


Que?
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:44 am to
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So you will deny that Lee came out some times when he got us to the redzone last year?
No. I don't. Jefferson did not get any TD passes from Lee drives. Now, for the THIRD TIME, how many times was Lee pulled in the RZ last year?

How many times did Lee get the benefit of LSU going for it on fourth down to keep a drive alive, besides Tennessee, Florida, and Auburn?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296967 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:46 am to
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Pretending that Crowton is a scapegoat for the offense.

As though Crowton was not to blame for the offense last year.



you are worthless. Basically taken everything I have said about last year and thrown it out the window because your feelings are hurt. I overestimated you. Sorry to hurt your little feelings!
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 11:48 am
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:46 am to
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one of these things has turnovers and no TD's.
Cpt Wrong again as usual
Nice spin try though.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49090 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:47 am to
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He had a DECENT game against bama


It's interesting how you define decent. From a pure passing standpoint (not counting rushing), Jefferson had the fifth best passing game by an LSU QB since 2007 against Alabama. It's the 3rd best if you only count Div. I schools.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:47 am to
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You also aren't factoring in that JJ played weaker competition last year compared to Lee.
Jefferson didn't.

Conduct the analysis for yourself.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49090 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:48 am to
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how many times was Lee pulled in the RZ last year?


Thrice.

What do I win?
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:48 am to
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You are not allowed to use the first five games of last season when comparing JJ to Lee...!!!!!!!! .(fingers in ears, hands over eyes..)

-Just Me.
You are really taking this personally, aren't you.

You're actually getting butt hurt about my analysis.

Dude, grow up and get a life.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:50 am to
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By I have noticed the play calling seems less confusing this year. There is a lot less miscommunication on the field.

Pretty simple, straight forward offense. Really liked the play action vs WVU. The offense ran it beautifully on a couple of situations.
Agree. Jarrett's comfort level is noticeably improved. The same will hopefully be true for Jordan. We will need both to make it through the rest of this schedule with one loss or less.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:50 am to
God forbid someone mentions something good about JJs play.

It turns into an 11 page bitchfest
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296967 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:50 am to
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You're actually getting butt hurt about my analysis.


I am actually laughing at your analysis. You need thicker skin. If you can't take dissent, don't post stupid shite.
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