re: Comparing Les to other great coaches.

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You guys see 51-15 and say, "thank God for Les Miles." I see the disorganized mess we are on the field and wonder how much better we could have been had we not settled for Les Miles as Nick Saban's replacement.

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I know I do. I see Ssban's record at LSU & it looks like this:


Year 1: 8-4 - Bad

Year 2: 10-3 - Good

Year 3: 8-5 - Bad (Clearly in Decline, Mediocre & in a Downward Spiral)

Year 4: 13-1 - Good

Year 5: 9-3 - Bad (4 game Dropoff, Clearly in Decline, "Goose we're in a Jetwash I can't control it, I can't reach the eject button!" )


Overall Saban Experience: 3 Bad seasons & 2 Good seasons.

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Less is middle of the pack SEC Coach
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Based off your opinion perhaps, but no objective measuring approach supports such a conclusion.

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Then that would mean that at least a fair majority of SEC schools would trade their coach for CLM, which we know is not the case. Hell they want us to keep Miles forever.

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I know I do. I see Ssban's record at LSU & it looks like this:


Year 1: 8-4 - Bad

Year 2: 10-3 - Good

Year 3: 8-5 - Bad (Clearly in Decline, Mediocre & in a Downward Spiral)

Year 4: 13-1 - Good

Year 5: 9-3 - 4 game Dropoff, Clearly in Decline, "Goose we're in a Jetwash I can't control it, I can't reach the eject button!"


Overall Saban Experience: 3 Bad seasons & 2 Good seasons.

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Although you all bitch about it, you all bring up Saban just as much, if not more, than anyone.

The truth is that Saban doesn't matter. Saban's record at LSU has nothing to do with the level of incompetent performance (in all aspects) exhibited by CLM coached teams the past couple years. And the performance is not getting any better. That's the point. Saban's record is insignificant.

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Then that would mean that at least a fair majority of SEC schools would trade their coach for CLM, which we know is not the case.

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Hey Miley Ray?

Why don't you go ahead & link this up or explain. Obviously you believe you have some kind of knowledge on this, so give us an idea where this knowledge comes from.

You puffed out your chest about about an SEC Coach wh is 51-15 being unwanted by everyone...now back it up.

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with better o-line play LSU wins atleast 10 games last year.

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with a set of testicles, my aunt becomes my uncle
Name one game last year (other than AU) where LSU played a well-planned, well-organized, well-disciplined, well-coached, hard fought game with very good overall performance. I'm not saying the players aren't to blame some too, but we know it all falls on the shoulders of the coach.

Are you really going to argue that Miles has had this team perform at a high level the past 2 seasons? Really?

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You puffed out your chest about about an SEC Coach wh is 51-15 being unwanted by everyone...now back it up.

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This has been talked about many times before.
Name one SEC west team that would trade straight up for Miles right now.

For God's sake, CLM is a national laughing stock. His clock mismanagements are legendary. His lack of player development is well noted. ON & ON.

Go read some other SEC msg boards. It's pretty obvious that they want Miles to stay at LSU for a long time.

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Are you really going to argue that Miles has had this team perform at a high level the past 2 seasons? Really?
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just answer the question
it's about the most important question that can be asked
"Is the current coach getting any where close to the most out of his team?"

(Any unbiased viewer of every game knows the answer, even Miles' own family.)

also, in what way do JJ & JL have anything to do with the performance of the defense, the OL, the coaches?
I really don't think some of you can comprehendthe concept of performance oriented vs results oriented.

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Saban:
The last 2 years the stars aligned for ole Nicky. If there was ever a time when the SEC was down (SEC standards) it's been the last 2 years. LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, UGA, Tenn, USC. None of those schools have fielded teams in the last 2 years that was able to compete. Before LSU Nick Saban didn't win anything. Also Colt McCoy goes down in the first quarter or we may not be having any discussion. Everyone forgets that Utah waxed that arse 2 years ago in the Sugar Bowl.

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Just as bad as not giving Miles any credit are the idiots who don't give Saban any credit. Saban just went 2 regular seasons undefeated in the SEC. In that time the great Les Miles lost 8 games. How often does an SEC coach have a run like that? How often does a coach build 2 different teams into powerhouses and win 2 national championships with both of them? Saban is a dam good coach. Les is not a bad coach, but he has got some work to do to put himself in the class of a Saban. What Saban has done the last 2 years is special in the SEC. Even people who don't like Saban's arrogance (like me) have to give the man his due.

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"Is the current coach getting any where close to the most out of his team?"

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You know good and well that nobody, outside of Les Miles, knows whether he is getting the most out of his team. You think you know how good the team could be because you look at how a player was ranked coming out of high school, which is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not saying Les is the best college football coach in the nation, but I'm saying some of you guys are making conclusions that are unfounded. You're looking for reason to get rid of a coach that has done a good job up to now.