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re: Can anyone provide evidence Joe Alleva has a clue what he's doing?

Posted on 2/21/11 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69188 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 9:24 pm to
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I never said I had any. But if you want to dispute the claim, showing last years numbers proves nothing for this year.

it can give somewhat of an idea of what the numbers could look like, as attendance numbers probably aren't too far off. i never said it proved anything, but it certainly gives some perspective to the situation.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 9:29 pm to
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Once again, show me a figure that proves the bball team is losing money THIS year



Dumas', is basketball season over yet?

How can you tally the actual dollar figures during a season?


If LSU shows a profit for 2010/2011 Basketball, it will mean someone put the money for the "New Football Parking Permits" in the Basketball column.
Posted by diehardfan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
5333 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 9:30 pm to
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it can give somewhat of an idea of what the numbers could look like, as attendance numbers probably aren't too far off. i never said it proved anything, but it certainly gives some perspective to the situation.


Maybe it gives some perspective. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if the program was losing money this year. Attendance seems to be down and there is even less interest in the program. It literally can't get much worse.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69188 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 9:32 pm to
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Dumas', is basketball season over yet?

How can you tally the actual dollar figures during a season?


well i was just responding to you that said the program was in the red, so how bout you aim these comments at yourself? k thanks. btw, lsu has a fairly substantial television contract for basketball, so if lsu were to break even, no i wouldn't be shocked
This post was edited on 2/21/11 at 9:34 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28874 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 9:34 pm to
Wait til next year.......at this point even if we are halfway decent it will take more than half the season before anyone wants to come out and see it.

For a struggling team, you would think Trent would try to sell the program to the public somehow. Why is it we can't have Midnight Madness? Especially if it falls on a football weekend, it could generate some interest. Instead we're stuck with a boring coach and a team with about the 3rd of 4th best talent in the state.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23275 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 9:36 pm to
it's a fact that LSU is at all times run by/ coached by people unqualified for the job.
Posted by jmath23lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
811 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:07 pm to
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well i was just responding to you that said the program was in the red,


FACT: The baseball team hasn't made as much money this season as they did last year. Plus, they haven't won a national championship in almost 2 years!

We as LSU fans shouldn't stand for this atrocity and should demand the resignation of the coach and the AD immediately!
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:09 pm to
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ell i was just responding to you that said the program was in the red, so how bout you aim these comments at yourself? k thanks

Is this a secret something in Germanton, TN.? It's not in Baton Rouge, LA.

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btw, lsu has a fairly substantial television contract for basketball, so if lsu were to break even, no i wouldn't be shocked


Yes it's a package deal. How do last minute unscheduled teams, end up being picked up by networks? Has this happened to a Trent Johnson coached team, the past 2 seasons?
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:16 pm to
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FACT: The baseball team hasn't made as much money this season as they did last year. Plus, they haven't won a national championship in almost 2 years

:omg:

brah...did they win more than 2 or 3 SEC games?

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We as LSU fans shouldn't stand for this atrocity and should demand the resignation of the coach and the AD immediately!

Or

You could just keep defending whatever it is you're defending, until the new PMAC Super Walmart arrives..
Posted by jmath23lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
811 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:21 pm to
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Can anyone provide evidence Joe Alleva has a clue what he's doing?


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Seventeen of LSU's 20 sports programs participated in post-season competition in 2009-10, including the Tiger football squad that played in a bowl game for the 10th straight season. Six LSU teams posted Top 10 national finishes last season, and 12 were ranked among the Top 25. LSU finished in the Top 20 of the Learfield Director's Cup rankings, which measure overall athletic success for institutions across the country.

Under Alleva's direction in 2008-09, all 20 LSU sports competed in NCAA post-season play for the first time in school history, and it culminated with the baseball team winning the national championship. In addition, six teams finished in the top 10 nationally. LSU was the only school in the Southeastern Conference to participate in a bowl game and the men's and women's NCAA basketball tournaments during 2008-09. Furthermore, LSU student-athletes volunteered a total of 2,360 hours for community service projects.
Posted by andrewstephens23
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
167 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:22 pm to
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Under Alleva's direction in 2008-09, all 20 LSU sports competed in NCAA post-season play for the first time in school history, and it culminated with the baseball team winning the national championship. In addition, six teams finished in the top 10 nationally. LSU was the only school in the Southeastern Conference to participate in a bowl game and the men's and women's NCAA basketball tournaments during 2008-09. Furthermore, LSU student-athletes volunteered a total of 2,360 hours for community service projects.


From lsusports.net

I believe this sums up this thread pretty well....
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:23 pm to
Those years don't count, he was doing it with Skip's coaches and players
Posted by andrewstephens23
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
167 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:24 pm to
But Skip never managed to do it...
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:25 pm to
You know I was joking right? hence the lol faces at the end
Posted by andrewstephens23
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
167 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:25 pm to
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Seventeen of LSU's 20 sports programs participated in post-season competition in 2009-10, including the Tiger football squad that played in a bowl game for the 10th straight season. Six LSU teams posted Top 10 national finishes last season, and 12 were ranked among the Top 25. LSU finished in the Top 20 of the Learfield Director's Cup rankings, which measure overall athletic success for institutions across the country.




This looks pretty good to me
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:31 pm to
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But Skip never managed to do it...


Skip won 5 National Championships for LSU, and hired the Football & Baseball Coaches who won National Championships.

Alleva hired Trent.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:33 pm to
Skip also hired Smoke Laval and Pokey. How'd those work out for us? Point being that you can't say Alleva sucks because of his first hire
Posted by TigerTailsSoup
Member since Sep 2005
10832 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:38 pm to
He is doing a damn fine job replacing the windows. Give Joe a break and let him get the asbestos out of the stadium dorms before you look for flaws
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:38 pm to
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Skip also hired Smoke Laval and Pokey. How'd those work out for us?


He hired Mainieri and LSU used to have Women's Final 4 type teams with Pokey.

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Point being that you can't say Alleva sucks because of his first hire

You can try to hide it, I suppose. With LSU Basketball not even showing up on the sports radar now..
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 2/21/11 at 10:42 pm to
I mean, Trent will either work out or he won't here. I'm just saying basing anything off of one sample is not accurate in anything. LSU Football lost to UF in 2003, does that mean UF was a better team than LSU that season? That's all I was trying to say, gotta have a larger sample size before judgements can be made
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