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re: Breakdown of Production By QB
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:39 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:39 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
The Argument that there is know threat to pass with sheppard taking a direct snap is retarded. We just wont let him, for what ever reason. He was the #1 DUAL THREAT QB (Dual threat means running and passing) in the nation he can throw a pass or two. The receivers are usually wide open on these plays anyway cause they dont expect him to throw.
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Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:40 pm to OBUDan
I tell you what....
I'll give you Jefferson and the first teamers
I'll take Lee and the first teamers.
I'll beat you by 20
I'll give you Jefferson and the first teamers
I'll take Lee and the first teamers.
I'll beat you by 20
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:40 pm to OBUDan
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You said Lee is the QB cause the fanbase thinks so.
No, your comprehension skills need tuning. You are trying to convince the fans on here of your opinion. I stated that this is a settled issue and you are wasting your time.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:40 pm to mamoutiga
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I tell you what....
I'll give you Jefferson and the first teamers
I'll take Lee and the first teamers.
I'll beat you by 20
You are so awesome.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:41 pm to OBUDan
I agree that the hot hand should play more. I am behind JJ and JLee. My problem has been with the way people have not supported Lee. We are damn lucky he is here and he actually did drive down the field and win us 2 games. We don't win those games without Lee. The kid deserves respect for everything he has been through and being loyal to LSU despite getting very little loyalty in return from Miles/Miles's supporters.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No, your comprehension skills need tuning.
MY skills need tuning?
So I guess it was when I said this:
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At the end of the day, the offense was simply more efficient with Lee at the helm. We gained more yards per play. He was more accurate as a passer.
Or was it this, Sherlock?
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Going forward, Lee should be the man.
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You are trying to convince the fans on here of your opinion. I stated that this is a settled issue and you are wasting your time.
Please do enlighten me to what opinion I'm trying to "convince" the fans of.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:42 pm to peopleschamp
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I agree that the hot hand should play more. I am behind JJ and JLee.
I support every player who suits up. I also think Lee has earned the majority of snaps.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:43 pm to OBUDan
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Do any of those guys play on this team?
I love Shep, but I'm sorry, we don't have anyone nearly as dynamic as those 4 guys right now.
I was referring to Ware. Never EVER would you want a player like Shep as the direct snap in the wildcat. People call for that and it makes me cringe. You need a power, North-South runner. I'm not saying Ware is as good as any of those but he's in a similar mold.
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Sure, but we don't run the Wildcat. People saying JJ is our "Wildcat" QB don't know what they are talking about. JJ is lining up in a classic shotgun spread offense and creating a rushing attack out of it.
You can call it whatever you want. Was Tebow a Wildcat QB his freshmen year? Was Perrilloux a Wildcat QB when we had Flynn? They aren't in the true sense of the word, but they were QBs orchestrating run-heavy packages. The Wildcat term has become synonymous with such a package when very few teams run the true Wildcat.
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Lee or JJ?
I haven't rewatched the game yet (about to), but I felt like there were 2 or 3 runs that JJ should have kept it but gave it off and it ended up getting stuff. That really irked me.
Jefferson. There were probably 3-4 times he shoulda pulled it like you mentioned. If he continues to improve on his reads though this should be figured out soon. He's improved substantially the last two weeks on his zone read game.
Also, you gotta stop giving Jefferson credit for Lee's drives. Sorry but when Bama brings in Ingram/Richardson for the Wildcat at the goalline McElroy still lead that drive. Jefferson has a place on this team and it's as a goalline package QB.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:43 pm to OBUDan
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It was the same mistake Lee made repeatedly in 2008
Yes, as a freshman.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:43 pm to peopleschamp
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oyal to LSU despite getting very little loyalty in return from Miles/Miles's supporters.
because they think Miles supports JJ...therefore they support JJ.
Facts and reality be damned! But won't it be funny when JL starts and plays most of the game this week. They will see Miles supports JL and they will flip over too.
They are not pro-LSU, they are Pro-Miles; and yes there is a difference.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:44 pm to peopleschamp
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My problem has been with the way people have not supported Lee.
Do you mean historically?
If so, I agree.
If you mean this year, I disagree. People have been all over him this year, really to the point of formulating a myth about his career at LSU.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:45 pm to OBUDan
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If so, I agree.
If you mean this year, I disagree. People have been all over him this year, really to the point of formulating a myth about his career at LSU.
You mean forgiving his freshman year? That myth? or the myth that Lee has earned the majority of snaps?
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:46 pm to FootballNostradamus
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I was referring to Ware. Never EVER would you want a player like Shep as the direct snap in the wildcat. People call for that and it makes me cringe. You need a power, North-South runner. I'm not saying Ware is as good as any of those but he's in a similar mold.
Yeah, I gotcha.
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You can call it whatever you want. Was Tebow a Wildcat QB his freshmen year? Was Perrilloux a Wildcat QB when we had Flynn? They aren't in the true sense of the word, but they were QBs orchestrating run-heavy packages. The Wildcat term has become synonymous with such a package when very few teams run the true Wildcat.
I know that anytime a guy takes a snap from shotgun and runs it, people automatically call it Wildcat. I also know that's not Wildcat. But regardless, I see what you are getting at.
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Jefferson. There were probably 3-4 times he shoulda pulled it like you mentioned. If he continues to improve on his reads though this should be figured out soon. He's improved substantially the last two weeks on his zone read game.
I agree. He ran it well against both WVU and Tennessee.
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Also, you gotta stop giving Jefferson credit for Lee's drives.
I'm not. But I'm not going to give Lee credit for a TD when he's on the sidelines watching...
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:47 pm to wmorris
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wmorris
I wasn't defending JJ. It was a stupid throw 100%.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:49 pm to OBUDan
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I'm not. But I'm not going to give Lee credit for a TD when he's on the sidelines watching...
I will agree with you that JJ does a fine job when he isn't throwing the football or faced with managing the game.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
The fact that you somehow magically discerned that this is a "JJ is better than Lee" thread, despite all evidence presented to the contrary, probably means I should ignore you. But...
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That myth? or the myth that Lee has earned the majority of snaps?
I already said Lee earned the majority of the snaps... probably 3 or 4 times in this thread.
The myth is that Lee has been some superstar that Les has held down and if we had only been playing him all along this offense would have been amazing.
Lee earned his place on the bench (which he may have not even gotten had he not gotten injured) in 2008. He played miserably. JJ took the reigns to finish the year and performed well in the Bowl game to take on the starting job and I would say 99% of the fan base rallied around that decision.
Through 4 games, JJ played his way into getting PT stripped and allowing Lee to earn his snaps. Through his snaps, Lee has proven he deserves more.
How you could possibly think I have said anything in this thread other than that is purely a fabrication of your imagination.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:51 pm to OBUDan
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This is something I plan to monitor throughout the duration of the two QB system.
Keep em coming
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:52 pm to peopleschamp
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I agree that the hot hand should play more. I am behind JJ and JLee. My problem has been with the way people have not supported Lee. We are damn lucky he is here and he actually did drive down the field and win us 2 games. We don't win those games without Lee. The kid deserves respect for everything he has been through and being loyal to LSU despite getting very little loyalty in return from Miles/Miles's supporters.
People need to learn from their msitakes. Because they are about to make the same mistake with JJ that they made with JL before.
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:53 pm to OBUDan
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But I'm not going to give Lee credit for a TD when he's on the sidelines watching...
So your saying field goals shouldn't be credited to the Qb that drove them down the field since he's not actually on the field?
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:53 pm to OBUDan
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The myth is that Lee has been some superstar that Les has held down and if we had only been playing him all along this offense would have been amazing.
Highest completion percentage of any QB in the SEC says he's been pretty damn good when called upon.
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