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re: Black wins Jacobs Trophy...Best Blocker in SEC

Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:39 am to
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:39 am to
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and yeah that's opinion, but so is this committee's decision


The only difference being
- the committee probably had people who have forgotten more football stuff than most of us (including you) know.
-and hence, whose conclusions probably have more truth to it than the rant's
- you(rant) are too close emotionally to the lsu program and might be (and probably ) are biased by what you see and what you don't see (trees/forest)
- your example of lavalais and PP (again LSU players) are not the right ones because of the exact same emotional reason.

I am sure fans of other programs have the same reaction to their players not being winners/selected

but we surely take the cake at doing the exact opposite (for the sake of internet BADness and winning online arguments)

-downplaying our own championship (season and titles)
- mocking and deriding our players who win trophies and awards.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:55 am to
gotta love the Ranters who have absolutely no fricking clue about how he truly performed. seriously, some of you have relied solely on the PERCEPTIONS of coach potatoes, actually watched .00001% of the plays he was involved in, and render your expert opinions.

There are some here who do have somewhat of an idea (including myself) and I would dare say he was a bit off of last year's performance. BUT, he was still performing at a high level.

I am sure some of those voting do consider him being our Tim Tebow as far as humanity, but his performance absolutely played a role.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:57 am to
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It doesn't take a coach to see someone struggling.


how many plays did you grade him out on? you know nothing outside of the obvious replays they force feed you which are few as related to Ciron's performance.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:00 am to
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exactly I will always be a Ciron Black fan. I will never forget what he did for the little boy who was in the hospital in Memphis. He is a class guy all the way. But I think he won this award based on his career, cause its obvious his knee problems have caught up wth him.



substantiate this position. I specifically watched him this season on a significant amount of plays (yes, I actually do this) and did NOT see much favoring of any knee injury.
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 9:19 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:01 am to
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+1 Ciron didnt deserve it any more than Obama deserved the Nobel. But I see no harm in him winning it!



dude, I have read some of your posts in the past related to the oline and, Podnuh, you have been way off base.....sorry to burst your bubble. Stick to NCAA 2009.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:04 am to
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Black led LSU with over 70 knockdowns this season while grading out over 85 percent in all 12 of LSU’s games.


....and yet many of you knuckleheads knock him.


BTW, good post Sid.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33361 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:05 am to
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Best Blocker in SEC
holy shite
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:05 am to
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They must mean because he blocked LSU from having a productive offense this season.


What a POS......dude, take this weak shite elsewhere.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33361 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:05 am to
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First 5 posts proves what I was saying.
your eyes don't lie, learn to trust them.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:07 am to
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That is a frickin joke. He got tossed around like a freakin ragdoll for most of the season.


No he did not. The joke is you fancying yourself knowledgeable of oline performance. I watched him on MANY plays and believe he played very well.......you?
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:08 am to
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Suprising.........since he played weak all season.......



which most posters do seem to think




Does him winning make them wrong? I wonder
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89293 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:08 am to
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1958 – J.W. Brodnax


Pretty good to win this award, considering he was a fullback. I wonder how many other fullbacks have been the outstanding blocker in the SEC?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:08 am to
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Not sure why people feel the need to make excuses for one of our players winning an award.


Rummi, these dudes make me fricking sick.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:11 am to
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WTF is with this stupid logical question when we are discussing the idiocy in giving an LSU Tiger an undeserved award.


and YOU are qualified to judge for the award?!?!?!?! STFU!
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:12 am to
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Prom, you've been really annoying lately. Ciron has played poorly all year. You and I both know it.


Hey, frick you Ellie. Want to know something? I know 10000000000000000x more than you do about being an olineman and CB did NOT play poorly.
Posted by tigerO
Member since Mar 2006
1414 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:12 am to
What is amazing is that he graded out at over 85% in all twelve games. This means that 85% was his lowest grade. That is an AWESOME grade for an O-lineman. Great year Ciron!!!
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89293 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:13 am to
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He got tossed around like a freakin ragdoll for most of the season.


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No he did not.


You're right. He didn't get tossed around. He whiffed on so many blocks, the D-linemen didn't NEED to toss him around.

Ciron Black this year played marginally better than Karnell Stewart played at RT in 2007, and that was pretty fricking horrible.

I'm not at all saying he's a bad kid or that he shouldn't get a shot at the next level. But having a beast like Herman Johnson playing next to you for the first 3 years of your career can hide a multitude of flaws.
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 9:15 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:15 am to
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it's hard for me to believe that we had the best blocker in the SEC when our OL sucked (after returning 3/5 starters)

and yeah that's opinion, but so is this committee's decision

just like the group who decided that the best CB in the SEC shouldn't make the first team all SEC


Slow, you a bloated internet/draft geek who has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy too much time on your hands.....that's it. Why not focus on being a decent lawyer one day.
Posted by tigerO
Member since Mar 2006
1414 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:16 am to
Look at his grade. Over 85% every game, which was best in SEC = Award
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:17 am to
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You're right. He didn't get tossed around. He whiffed on so many blocks, the D-linemen didn't NEED to toss him around.

Ciron Black this year played marginally better than Karnell Stewart played at RT in 2007, and that was pretty fricking horrible.

I'm not at all saying he's a bad kid or that he shouldn't get a shot at the next level. But having a beast like Herman Johnson playing next to you for the first 3 years of your career can hide a multitude of flaws.



I frickING WATCHED HIM.....CIRON BLACK THAT IS UP UNTIL THE CAMERAS DRFITED AWAY. DID YOU?!

Besides, on a few occasions our young QB either held the ball for an eternity or failed to understand the concept of stepping up into the pocket.

ETA: It's Carnell
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 9:18 am
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