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re: Best LSU player ever?...
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:20 am to Ryan3232
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:20 am to Ryan3232
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I think Petey and Chris were both better than Shaq in college. But Shaq was better in the NBA.
ya know what....fair argument. in fact, i agree. my argument is more of an nba argument. in college ball, pete is #1, no contest. # 2 is arguable for days....
but...i still have shaq in my top 3 all time nba players
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Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:23 am to MOT
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Tough to say. Perhaps Pete's total dominance at LSU is enough to outweigh Shaq's pro career. The guy is the NBA's 5th all time leading scorer behind Kareem, Malone, Jordan, and Chamberlain. That is pretty strong.
Well, looking at the pro careers...It may be appropriate to thrown in Bob Petit.
Points per game is what I would equate to a good NBA career:
Petit > #7 all time 26.3ppg
Shaq > #13 all time 24.7ppg
Pistol > #17 all time 24.2ppg
LINK
Petit = 2 MVP
Shaq = 1 MVP
Pistol = 0 MVP
Petit = 1 championships
Shaq = 4 championships
Pistol = 0 championships
I think that Pistol Pete's pro career was hindered by the number of games that he played along with the fact that he was not on a championship team. It should not hinder the fact that he was one of the best baseketball players ever. Had he played longer and been on a better team he may have been thought of as a better all-time player. And again with the three pointer, Pistol Pete may be at the top of the points per game list.
This post was edited on 7/11/09 at 12:41 am
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:27 am to broussardtige
i agree with you, but you have to factor in how shaq changed the game. shaq was fouled on a regular basis....many of which were not called due to his utter dominance. also, what tips the scales in my opinion is...put him in a game against the greats while he was in his prime....he would slaughter all those guys (especially petit)
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:28 am to longhorn22
Doug Planchard
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:34 am to 3HourTour
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Doug Planchard
debatable
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:36 am to broussardtige
quote:
Petit = 2 MVP
Shaq = 1 MVP
Pistol = 0 MVP
Petit = 1 championships
Shaq = 1 championships
Pistol = 0 championships
where are you getting your stats from? Shaq has 4 rings
This post was edited on 7/11/09 at 12:51 am
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:46 am to Sammobile
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where are you getting your stats from? Shaq has 4 rings
Sorry, typo. Its fixed.
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:48 am to broussardtige
michael joradan > shaq > everyone else
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:54 am to broussardtige
Doesn't Shaq also have 3 Finals MVPs?
Shaq also played the center position which should also give him extra points. He is also considered a good defender.
Shaq also played the center position which should also give him extra points. He is also considered a good defender.
Posted on 7/11/09 at 12:59 am to lsutiger2486
2000 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 38.0 points, 16.7 rebounds and 2.67 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-2 victory over the Indiana Pacers and the franchise’s first NBA Championship since 1988. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 43 points, 19 rebounds in Game #1, 40 points, 24 rebounds in Game #2 and 41 points, 12 rebounds in Game #6.
2001 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 33.0 points, 15.6 rebounds and 3.40 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-1victory over the Philadelphia 76ers and the franchise’s second consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 44 points, 20 rebounds and five assists in Game #1, 28 points, 20 rebounds and nine assists in Game #2 and 34 points, 14 rebounds in Game #4.
2002 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 36.3 points, 12.3 rebounds and 2.75 blocks to lead the Lakers to a sweep of the New Jersey Nets and the franchise’s third consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 36 points, 16 rebounds and four blocks in Game #1, 40 points, 12 rebounds and eight assists in Game #2, 35 points, 11 rebounds and four blocks in Game #3.
Averaged 38.0 points, 16.7 rebounds and 2.67 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-2 victory over the Indiana Pacers and the franchise’s first NBA Championship since 1988. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 43 points, 19 rebounds in Game #1, 40 points, 24 rebounds in Game #2 and 41 points, 12 rebounds in Game #6.
2001 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 33.0 points, 15.6 rebounds and 3.40 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-1victory over the Philadelphia 76ers and the franchise’s second consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 44 points, 20 rebounds and five assists in Game #1, 28 points, 20 rebounds and nine assists in Game #2 and 34 points, 14 rebounds in Game #4.
2002 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 36.3 points, 12.3 rebounds and 2.75 blocks to lead the Lakers to a sweep of the New Jersey Nets and the franchise’s third consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 36 points, 16 rebounds and four blocks in Game #1, 40 points, 12 rebounds and eight assists in Game #2, 35 points, 11 rebounds and four blocks in Game #3.
Posted on 7/11/09 at 1:01 am to lsu xman
shaq would take a dump on wilts face
Posted on 7/11/09 at 1:46 am to mes1100
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shaq would take a dump on wilts face
No one can convince me that Shaq would not own any true center in history if both were playing in their prime.
Posted on 7/11/09 at 1:53 am to lsutiger2486
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No one can convince me that Shaq would not own any true center in history if both were playing in their prime.
I can't say this. I'm not taking anything away from Shaq cause he's great, but Hakeem owned Shaq in the Finals when they played. Granted, it probably wasn't Shaq in his prime, but if Hakeem dominates Shaq a little before his prime, wouldn't he at least challenge Shaq in his prime. Shaq couldn't keep up with Hakeem's footwork, so what makes you think he'd be able to keep up with it in his prime?
Posted on 7/11/09 at 2:26 am to F machine
Hakeem is a F-C IMO. Timmy is a F-C.
You put up people who are like Howard and he would own them.
You put up people who are like Howard and he would own them.
Posted on 7/11/09 at 3:18 am to longhorn22
Chris Jackson
Posted on 7/11/09 at 4:15 am to longhorn22
Pete Maravich
Posted on 7/11/09 at 4:59 am to EZ2BLSU
Pete Maravich
Posted on 7/11/09 at 7:51 am to Kajungee
NO way Chris Jackson was a better player than Shaq college or pro. What held Shaq's scoring down his freshman year was CJ jacking up ridiculous 30 footers.
Posted on 7/11/09 at 7:57 am to Rudy40
quote:Most of which went in....
CJ jacking up ridiculous 30 footers
not disagreeing, jus sayin....
Posted on 7/11/09 at 8:20 am to TiegerTim
1 Pistol
2 Chris Jackson
3 Shaq
4 Petit
thats how i see it anyway....
2 Chris Jackson
3 Shaq
4 Petit
thats how i see it anyway....
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