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re: Been out, and I’m sure this has been discussed ad nauseam, but Neal totally fubar that

Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:17 pm to
But the play couldn’t be made if he hangs back. He hangs back it’s a score.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:28 pm to
How did Neal screw up? He did everything taught. Batter backed away he set up to catch and apply the tag. Complain about Neal for many things if you want, that play was executed perfect. Go watch YouTube players stealing home.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5989 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:30 pm to
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And what about the batter leaving the box before the pitch was thrown?


Look above. He didn't leave the box before it was "thrown". You can read the rules here and it's clear as mud. NCAA 7-1 A Batter
This rule doesn't seem to really address this issue clearly. There is a exception that the batter can leave the box if "d) A defensive player attempts a play on a runner at any base." But I'm not sure how that all applies here. I think everyone is arguing for the sake of arguing.

All of these things can be true at the same time:
- Neal didn't touch the plate or step in front. Should have been an out. End of discussion.
- I don't think what the batter did is illegal b/c of the play at the plate. He's allowed to get out of the way. If he's a right-handed hitter, is he supposed to stand in between the runner and home plate?
- B/c it was a pitch and not the pitcher stepping off to make the throw, Neal could have been called for interference IF and only if the batter had swung the bat and hit Neal.
- Everyone is arguing the 'what if'. But as it played out, what Neal did was perfectly fine.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3392 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:32 pm to
Bottom line is he did exactly what he should have done there and within the rules ! Stop making this something that’s not !
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:35 pm to
Nah, he gets him even if he stays put. The thing that gets me is the SEC dude after the game said this isn't one of the 17 plays that can be reviewed. So, it works both ways. The ump raised his hand, out. Then it's overruled, apparently after a talk with the other officials. How can a talk with the other officials be better than an actual fricking tape of the fricking play not be better. But again, its un-reviewable. So, the USCe coach brought this to the attention to the officials, and it was reviewed by them. But, but it's not reviewable.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3392 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:35 pm to
Lmao you don’t know baseball dude you need to stfu Neal has to tag there you moron stop posting stupid shite you moron! It’s a called steal the batter is not swinging there you dumb f…!
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5989 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:35 pm to
quote:


But the play couldn’t be made if he hangs back. He hangs back it’s a score.


There was time to make the play if he had hung back. I'm not bitching at Neal for the way he played it. I'm just saying he didn't have to jump out front. What he did was fine, but it wasn't required to make the play. We have the advantage of hindsight. Neal had to make a split second decision and it should have worked out if not for the shite ump.

Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2678 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:37 pm to
You would be the one to talk about a 16-year old’s pop time.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3392 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:41 pm to
You dumb f… you said tag the plate maybe you should go and read your stupid shite!
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5989 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

quote:

What Neal did is fine ONLY b/c the batter didn't swing.



The batter COULD NOT swing because he left the batters box. Why is this simple fact so hard for many of you to get straight.


Neal moved forward before the batter left the box. Why is this simple fact so hard for many of you to get straight?

Again, I'm not shitting on Neal. We should have had the out. I disagree with OP that Neal FUBAR'd the play. But I was replying to a post that simply said that had the batter swung (and yes it's hypothetical so you assume he's still in the box), it 100% would have been catcher interference.

This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3392 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:44 pm to
No it doesn’t not you idiot I watched the same thing you watched he doesn’t not the rule on the field was the guy on third was out so not it’s a judgement call he clearly never touches home plate nor steps in front of home plate
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3392 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:45 pm to
Ga dang dude your a flat out idiot!
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27869 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:49 pm to
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You guys think in the heat of that play, Neil has any opportunity to see or even think about what the batter is doing


He’s playing D1 baseball in the best conference in America. frick yeah I think he saw the batter move out of the box and that he had a free path to the batter. What else do you think a catcher is doing? They aren’t just watching the pitcher 24/7. They are calling the pitch, setting up at the plate, watching the batter, etc.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34111 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:54 pm to
You’re quite a stupid motherfricker.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5989 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 11:58 pm to
quote:

frick yeah I think he saw the batter move out of the box and that he had a free path to the batter. What else do you think a catcher is doing? They aren’t just watching the pitcher 24/7.


Neal was looking down to third.he wasn’t even looking at the batter. Neal moved first; the batter started jumping a split second after him. The video is on YouTube. Easy to find.

None of this is relevant to the outcome. I just don’t understand why everyone needs to make up shite.
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
3945 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:03 am to
Except for the fact that the hitter, if he stayed in the box, could have hit him with a swing because it was a pitch. Other than that, yes he did it correctly
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
3945 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:05 am to
You expect Neal or any other catcher to block a ball that was spiked at 46”?? Major league catchers wouldn’t have blocked those, those were on Guidry!
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
3945 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:06 am to
Nm
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 12:44 am
Posted by Rising
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:41 am to
Ur a moron
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:45 am to
It's meauxjeaux. Don't validate that POS
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