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Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:11 am to
Posted by pdunn
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2007
449 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:11 am to
their passion makes our sucky ooc schedule less so.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:01 am to
quote:

45....LOL

LSU will be lucky to score in the high 20's. Oh course that will be after App has pulled the starters and is comfortable in a coasting win.

Do you really honestly think this or are you kinda half joking in an optimistic way? Because if you really do believe this, you need some help.
Posted by Vanilla Bear MD
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
4289 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:03 am to
they just flame. we should ban all app fans and most bama fans
Posted by Yosef
Member since Jul 2008
8 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:21 am to
Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:22 am to
quote:

So I replied, "Yes, you beat Michigan. LSU could whip Michigan's arse with our second string. Give it up, sweetie."


Michigan is, historically, 20-5-1 vs. the SEC. The Wolverines are 6-1 vs. the SEC, including 5-1 in bowl games, since the BCS started in 1998. During the period, they won their only game against an SEC champion. They beat a Florida team that LSU beat by the hair of its chinny chin chin in last year's Captal One Bowl in spite of twice fumbling the ball away inside the Gators' five yard line.

I would not minimize what Appalachian State, as a I-AA/FCS team playing with I-AA/FCS resources did in beating that team. LSU would by no means have been a lock to beat Michigan last year. Put it this way: They were a lot better than Kentucky or Arkansas.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70131 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:25 am to
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Put it this way: They were a lot better than Kentucky or Arkansas.


Were they better than the National Champions? Hmmmm, your argument sucks.
Posted by LSUME86
Baton Rouge of course...
Member since Dec 2006
1871 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:32 am to
I didn't see where you factored Wofford into your invalid argument...?

Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70131 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:34 am to
quote:

I didn't see where you factored Wofford into your invalid argument


or georgia southern
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33482 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:39 am to
quote:

They were a lot better than Kentucky or Arkansas.

Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:41 am to
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Were they better than the National Champions? Hmmmm, your argument sucks.


No, I do not think Michigan was better than LSU last year. But that doesn't mean Michigan beating LSU would've been a big shock if they'd played.

I have two kids going to LSU and am glad they won the BCS championship game. But that was not a nationally dominant team. It's a team that backed into the title game based in part, on the incredible occurence of a 4-7 Pittsburgh team (going into the game) beating a 10-1 West Virginia team that itself had a BCS championship game berth on the line. LSU had its defense absolutely punked by Arkansas when IT had a BCS title game berth on the line.

They played an excellent game against Ohio State. Most notably, they didn't make a bunch of unforced errors in terms of things committing key penalties and dropping passes like they tended to do during the season. They caught some breaks and got in that game then when they got in the game they played better than Ohio State (which did make a lot of mistakes) did on that day.

The idea that they'd be a lock to just slap Michigan aside as though 2007-2008 LSU was something like the 1995-1996 Nebraska team is absurd. They were one of a cluster of teams that could've won the BCS title if things fell their way and things fell their way. I'm happy for that but let's not make them out to have been some kind of unbeatable juggernaught. They were a good team but certainly could have been beaten on a given day by team as good as Michigan was. Next time you run into a Florida fan ask them if they think Michigan would've had a solid shot to beat last year's LSU team.

Posted by LSUME86
Baton Rouge of course...
Member since Dec 2006
1871 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:43 am to
Actually, if Armanti Edwards gets hurt, LSU will only need its second string to beat ASU.

That's what I really like about this game. If say Edwards gets hurt in the first quarter I'd be surprised if ASU gets 2 first downs the rest of the game.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:46 am to
Well if you want to compare LSU playing Florida to Michigan playing Florida, let's go ahead and use the same faulty logic of LSU playing Ohio State vs Michigan playing Ohio State. Besides giving up 10 points in the first quarter and a Jai Eugene blown coverage charity td in the 4th, LSU pretty much dominated Ohio State the entire game.

So, if you're going to use comparisons I think it'd be safe to say that since Ohio State beat Michigan and LSU crushed Ohio State, that LSU would have killed Michigan.

Of course, I don't believe that kind of b.s., just mocking you using Florida in your argument.

Posted by BigSteve
Alexandria
Member since Oct 2006
187 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:56 am to
ESPN was right for once. LINK
Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 8:04 am to
quote:

I didn't see where you factored Wofford into your invalid argument...?


Nor did I talk about Georgia Southern beating App State or App State being very fortunate to get out of its first round playoff game against James Madison (JMU fumbled at App's 9 yard line with 22 seconds left so never attempted a field goal that would've won the game for them).

That's because my comments were focused on what Appalachian State accomplished in beating Michigan and the comment that LSU could've beaten Michigan with its second team. I realize that wasn't met literally but I think the idea was that LSU was SO much better than Michigan last year that there was no comparison.

Another thing: We don't know exactly how good LSU is going to be this year just like we didn't know how good Michigan was going to be last year.

Obviously, I expect LSU to beat Appalachian State fairly comfortably. But that wasn't Duke's football team the Mountaineers beat last year. That was a team from a program that has dominated its head to head series with SEC teams and extended that dominance last year.

I don't see how anybody could've watched Michigan against Florida in the Cap One Bowl and possibly think that it would've been a big shock to have had that Michigan team beat LSU if the two had played.
This post was edited on 7/27/08 at 8:08 am
Posted by gpttigers
Katy, TX
Member since May 2005
973 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 8:07 am to
I guess these App guys don't remember the 24-0 shutout in 2005 (the first year they won their high school national championship).

LSU is going to run the ball ALL DAY against these guys. I would be careful with your starting QB, you don't want to ruin your whole season.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 8:13 am to
quote:

the best hometown pizza place in this area


Hillbilly Pizza Parlor:

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Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 8:15 am to
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guess these App guys don't remember the 24-0 shutout in 2005 (the first year they won their high school national championship).

LSU is going to run the ball ALL DAY against these guys. I would be careful with your starting QB, you don't want to ruin your whole season.


I think they do remember the 2005 game and probably are encouraged by it. They were able to hang in the game pretty well when I'm sure most people expected something like the 56-3 blowout LSU had against North Texas the week before.

The score as only 14-0 at the end of the third quarter and at that point App had dropped a TD pass and missed a field goal. They were able to run the ball, stay on the field, and limit LSU to 8 offensive possessions.

I listened to the game on the radio and the LSU broadcast team was clearly shocked at how pesky they were. There was no doubt that they were seeing a more competetive game than they expected.

Later, I watched the Cox replay. Rollins opened the broacast by making a statement in which he said, "The score was 24-0 but it was NOT an easy game."

Main thing is it was not a "they don't belong on the same field" kind of contest. LSU was never in real danger but they also didn't just walk out and blow App out like they've done when they've played people like Louisiana Tech, ULM, ULL, etc.

Having said that, I do expect LSU to be able to run the ball very well. I also think that App will not have the same advantage of being completely overlooked as they were by Michigan. LSU should have a substantial advantage both ways on the line of scrimmage. LSU's going to have an overwhelming depth advantage and App will not be accustomed to the kind of heat index they're probably going to face. The average high temperature in Boone, NC, in August is 74 degrees. The high temperature in Ann Arbor on the day App played Michigan was 79.

Baton Rouge on August 30 is likely to be an entirely different thing.

This post was edited on 7/27/08 at 8:26 am
Posted by gpttigers
Katy, TX
Member since May 2005
973 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 8:18 am to
I was there and remember it well. Final score 24-0.
Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I was there and remember it well. Final score 24-0.


And I'd bet that if you're honest about it you'll say that App's team was more competetive than you expected it to be, that it moved to ball more than you thought it would, that its quickness at the quarterback position caused LSU some problems, and that it took longer for LSU to put them away than you expected.
This post was edited on 7/27/08 at 8:30 am
Posted by VooDoo1321
Virginia
Member since May 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 7/27/08 at 8:30 am to
have you taken her to dinner? The reason I ask is because...well, ya'll can figure it out
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