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re: Anyone wonder why we don't run any power or counter plays from the Pro I?

Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:34 am to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23792 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:34 am to
I started almost the same thread yesterday.... I think its because we have not had to.. Miles is keeping things very vanilla, very simple... stop us if you can, and nobody has.. I am sure we will see some variations of plays off what we have shown so far.... when we face Bama and beyond....
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7721 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:51 am to
The only thing I wonder about, is why so many people on this board think they qualify as play-callers or coach's...can't you just enjoy the level of play of a GREAT team?...and let the PROFESSIONALS do their job...
Posted by kudu
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
50 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:02 am to
It's not rocket science to see that with 8 in the box you might try something other than run between the tackles, especially with Shep and Ford.

Miles is plain stubborn, and it will catch up with us...
Posted by MrKnowItAll
Strop City
Member since Mar 2007
6831 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:08 am to

I also wonder why LSU doesn't run the old Notre Dame box formation... have JJ, JL, RR and SW all in the box formation , snap the ball to JJ he turns his back to the defense, all the other players in the backfield cut to him and he fakes it to all of them and then keeps it himself on a QB option run up the middle. I can't believe Coach Miles is not using this.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 7:16 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23792 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:18 am to
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The only thing I wonder about, is why so many people on this board think they qualify as play-callers or coach's...can't you just enjoy the level of play of a GREAT team?...and let the PROFESSIONALS do their job...



tiger chaser, this is called the Rant... this is exactly what its for, getting on a soap box and ranting!! maybe you need to find a cheerleader forum and post there....Of course we all are enjoying the success, and we enjoy "Ranting" about it also....
Posted by The_Pistol
Member since Dec 2003
2519 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:37 am to
LSU doesn't run the counter-trey because the Guards aren't fast enough. It takes an athletic sunofabitch to get 300+ pounds from the G position all the way around the C and the T and block an OLB or DB at full speed in open space.
Between T-Bob, Blackwell & Williford, I don't think they could consistently be successful at this play.

Also, this offense is designed to dictate down and distance. A counter play is vulnerable to a defender shooting the vacated gap to get the RB for a loss. Any negative play is a potential drive killer for an offense predicated on rushing and play-action passing. ISO and back-on-safety schemes are more suited for an offense willing to take 3.5 ypc.
Posted by gwilging
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Mar 2011
1396 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 12:20 pm to
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The Fumblerooski is coming. I can feel it

shhhh.....keep it on the DL my man.
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LSU doesn't run the counter-trey because the Guards aren't fast enough. It takes an athletic sunofabitch to get 300+ pounds from the G position all the way around the C and the T and block an OLB or DB at full speed in open space.
Between T-Bob, Blackwell & Williford, I don't think they could consistently be successful at this play.

Also, this offense is designed to dictate down and distance. A counter play is vulnerable to a defender shooting the vacated gap to get the RB for a loss. Any negative play is a potential drive killer for an offense predicated on rushing and play-action passing. ISO and back-on-safety schemes are more suited for an offense willing to take 3.5 ypc.


That's an excellent point. I like using counter if running predominantly to one side then countering from that, but athletic guards are a must for that and someone can shoot the backside gap. However, we might see this later. #HintHint
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6884 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 12:24 pm to
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The only thing I wonder about, is why so many people on this board think they qualify as play-callers or coach's...can't you just enjoy the level of play of a GREAT team?...and let the PROFESSIONALS do their job


So we should we just sit around a message board and not discuss anything?
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