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Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:36 am to PastySkankster
I think it is the "cutting" players thing that is my problem. I understand that I will have guys that will be dead weight in a couple of years, but that is the fun of this exercise. You said it yourself that there is no money involved with this, so why make it harder to draft.
Why not have every team draft a full roster each year, combine the teams, and that would be your team. At most, a team would have 125 players on it.
Again, its not that I prefer one way to another, I just want to make this thing as easy as possible for all owners involved.
Why not have every team draft a full roster each year, combine the teams, and that would be your team. At most, a team would have 125 players on it.
Again, its not that I prefer one way to another, I just want to make this thing as easy as possible for all owners involved.
This post was edited on 4/6/11 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:54 am to jembeurt
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I think it is the "cutting" players thing that is my problem. I understand that I will have guys that will be dead weight in a couple of years, but that is the fun of this exercise. You said it yourself that there is no money involved with this, so why make it harder to draft.
You don't have to cut anybody. Your players will eventually be gone either through graduation, attrition or the draft. If you want to keep them for a RS and 4 yrs (or 8 yrs if you have Case Keenum), that is your call. You just need the number of players in future years to keep your roster "legal".
Again, not in stone yet. OBUDan is quiet this AM.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:03 am to Hand
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RMD 2011 - jc77 on clock, OIT on deck Alright, since some azzhole took my quarterback --I'm looking at you Fonz-- and subject to Pasty's ruling on greyshirts, my quarterback will be:
My bad.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:03 am to PastySkankster
Kewl. Whatever is set as the rules I'm good for. I can work my magic any way I need. If I have to make cuts then Coach Red can handle this for me.
Cut His arse.
So to be straight though, we will be selecting 3 extra players this year?
Cut His arse.
So to be straight though, we will be selecting 3 extra players this year?
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:18 am to jembeurt
I was the only one fighting for this at the beginning of this season and I of couarse recruited my team according to this.
I didnt go after the best aviable at any position i went after the best avilable at positions of need.
I am very excited that we are approaching it in this manner. I think the Roster should be increaded to 24 per year. Which is 96 spots. You can only have 85 active so then the grey shirt and redshirt thing will come into affect.
I really dont care hwo we keep score as whether i win or lose i want to have a great team to follow. I also like learning about recruits that arent 4 or 5 stars, Seeing there videos and articles. Great learning experience in the recruiting world.
the only problem i see is that we will haev to keep the per draft requirements at every spots needs to be filled. Simply becuase we arent capabale of being like florida a few years ago and getting 3 our of the top 5 DL in the country. We are on on snake so to keep the league balanced you cant quickly snatch up 4 mlinebackers becuase they are tops. Or OSmeone drafting 3 QB hoping one sticks.
Anotehr thing.....
If we do cuts then those players should be added to a tab or list and then shoul dbe allowed to transfer to another program if they have a need. Without sitting a year.
Lastly, I know this may sound cheesy but Ithink we should be broken down into conferences with each conference having 7 teams.
I didnt go after the best aviable at any position i went after the best avilable at positions of need.
I am very excited that we are approaching it in this manner. I think the Roster should be increaded to 24 per year. Which is 96 spots. You can only have 85 active so then the grey shirt and redshirt thing will come into affect.
I really dont care hwo we keep score as whether i win or lose i want to have a great team to follow. I also like learning about recruits that arent 4 or 5 stars, Seeing there videos and articles. Great learning experience in the recruiting world.
the only problem i see is that we will haev to keep the per draft requirements at every spots needs to be filled. Simply becuase we arent capabale of being like florida a few years ago and getting 3 our of the top 5 DL in the country. We are on on snake so to keep the league balanced you cant quickly snatch up 4 mlinebackers becuase they are tops. Or OSmeone drafting 3 QB hoping one sticks.
Anotehr thing.....
If we do cuts then those players should be added to a tab or list and then shoul dbe allowed to transfer to another program if they have a need. Without sitting a year.
Lastly, I know this may sound cheesy but Ithink we should be broken down into conferences with each conference having 7 teams.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:23 am to jembeurt
I'm fine with it. Just as long as we get some clear cut regulations ironed out and people proceed logically (not drafting 24 WRs).
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:25 am to OBUDan
We will have SOME SORT of roster limits to be determined before next year's draft.
Oh Yeah! TigerPhan is nuts!
Oh Yeah! TigerPhan is nuts!
This post was edited on 4/6/11 at 10:38 am
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:26 am to PastySkankster
Why is that Pasty?
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:38 am to Tiger Phanatick
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Why is that Pasty?
Just giving you crap for how much thought you have already put into it.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:00 am to PastySkankster
Bump.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:04 am to slackster
I say it is just about time to page slackster and allow him to work with the pathagarium type theory on how to score these players.
God damn my head hurts.
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For those interested in submitting comprehensive rosters at the beginning of next season, I will use the following logic to rank teams. I think player success is impeccably hard to determine, but the best unbiased way to do so, IMO, is to quantify a players achievements. Let’s say we are judging a QB after the post season has concluded. IMO, the following areas would be judged: TDs/game, TDs/att, INTs/game, INTs/att, TD:INT, Pass Yds/gm, Yds/att, Completion %, Rushing TDs/gm, Rushing yds/att, Rushing yds/gm, Fumbles/gm, Sacks/att, passer efficiency, and in-season and post-season awards, both at the conference (P.O.W. per game, 1st/2nd team all-conference, MVP) and national level (P.O.W. per game, 1st/2nd team all-American, O’Brien Award).
All statistical numbers would be averaged over attempts or games to standardize the results rather than using raw figures. There would be some sort of minimum attempts for a QB to even qualify for rankings. The numbers will then be combined with the rest of the QBs who qualify in the NCAA Bowl Subdivision to determine a percentile ranking. That percentile ranking will be the QBs points in that particular category. For example, if 150 QBs qualify, the QB with the highest TDs:INT ratio will receive 1 point, the QB who ranks 35 will receive .766 points since he is “better” than 115 qualifying QBs. The maximum number of points available for a QB from his statistics would be 14. If a QB tallies 11 points, he will receive .786 points towards his overall ranking.
To quantify conference awards, P.O.W. award winning percentage will be multiplied by 10 points, 5 points will go to 2nd Team all-conference and 10 points to 1st team all conference, and 5 points to conference MVP on offense (only if applicable to all conferences). Additionally, POW award winning percentage at the national level will be multiplied by 30 points, 2nd-team all-American will be worth 15 points, 1st team worth 30 points, and the O’Brien award worth an additional 15 points. Total points possible will be 100 if a kid wins all conference and national POW awards, 1st-team all conference and all American, and wins conference MVP and the O’Brien award. 68.2 points total will be worth .682 towards a players overall ranking.
Statistical ranking will be combined with award ranking and then averaged to give a final score. Something similar will be done at every position using. Some positions will need an agreed-upon national award to be counted such as either the Lombardi award or the Nagurski trophy for defensive linemen. We will also use one prominent source for all stats, one source for an all-American team, and conference websites for conference awards. Also, something will need to be done with Army, Navy, and Notre Dame players since there are no conference awards of any kind. Perhaps their statistics number would be multiplied by 1.25 to fill the void of conference awards. No points will be awarded for a player’s NFL draft position. Also, no points will be awarded for wins/losses since it skews the draft towards the recruits of big-time programs. Wins/losses will be intertwined with the awards anyways. Finally, I would rather NOT give any credit to the Heisman award winner since it is inherently biased towards offensive players and QBs/RBs in particular, and instead I would rather just use positional national awards.
What say you?
God damn my head hurts.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:19 am to PastySkankster
I figured that.
Asn Yes I have put some thought into it. Thsi is all i have during thsi time from a time watser perspective.
But I think we are really on to something here.
Asn Yes I have put some thought into it. Thsi is all i have during thsi time from a time watser perspective.
But I think we are really on to something here.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:21 am to OBUDan
Okay, the final pick of the Fighting OITers will be FB: Trayion Durham, Kent State.
Here is my team:
QB: Jeff Driskel (Florida)
RB: Herschel Sims (Oklahoma State)
FB: Trayion Durham (Kent State)
WR: Tacoi Sumler (Oregon)
WR: Demiere Byrd (South Carolina)
TE: Dan Tapko (Oklahoma
OT: Spencer Drango (Baylor)
OG: Cody Robinson (Duke)
C: Tony Durkin (Illinois)
OG: Austin Blythe (Iowa)
OT: Shaq Anthony (Clemson)
DE: BJ Dubose
DT: Phillip Dukes
DT: Kris Harley (Virginia Tech)
DE: John Raymon (Iowa)
OLB: Armonze Daniel (Marshall)
MLB: James Vaughters (Stanford)
OLB: Deryck Gildon (TCU)
CB: Blake Countess (Michigan)
CB: Jeremiah Hendy (Maryland)
SS: Jeremy Cash (Ohio State)
FS: Wayne Lyons (Stanford)
Here is my team:
QB: Jeff Driskel (Florida)
RB: Herschel Sims (Oklahoma State)
FB: Trayion Durham (Kent State)
WR: Tacoi Sumler (Oregon)
WR: Demiere Byrd (South Carolina)
TE: Dan Tapko (Oklahoma
OT: Spencer Drango (Baylor)
OG: Cody Robinson (Duke)
C: Tony Durkin (Illinois)
OG: Austin Blythe (Iowa)
OT: Shaq Anthony (Clemson)
DE: BJ Dubose
DT: Phillip Dukes
DT: Kris Harley (Virginia Tech)
DE: John Raymon (Iowa)
OLB: Armonze Daniel (Marshall)
MLB: James Vaughters (Stanford)
OLB: Deryck Gildon (TCU)
CB: Blake Countess (Michigan)
CB: Jeremiah Hendy (Maryland)
SS: Jeremy Cash (Ohio State)
FS: Wayne Lyons (Stanford)
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:23 am to jembeurt
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God damn my head hurts.
yeah way too much to read while on the clock.
Whatever he said I will go with it. No system is perfect and we will have multiple flaws.
EI Dee Hart 5 star running back in lost in no where. When I am still recruiting him. LOL. He is close to committing no matter what you guys say.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:30 am to Tiger Phanatick
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Whatever he said I will go with it. No system is perfect and we will have multiple flaws.
Not even sure who that guy is that offered that up. It was way too long!
Pasty
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:32 am to JG77056
I am in as long as it doesnt get too complicated. 7 team conferences and redshirt/greyshirts sounds way too difficult to me.
I think guys like Dee Hart and La'el Collins should be put into next years pool of players.
I think guys like Dee Hart and La'el Collins should be put into next years pool of players.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:40 am to BayouCatFan
Team Dro is down like 4 flat tires
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:40 am to BayouCatFan
What happened to la el?
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:57 am to Tiger Phanatick
I'm in no matter what you guys decide. I love this crap.
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