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It’s still all about the bag man in college football recruiting

Posted on 2/8/20 at 11:57 am
Posted by zed44
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2006
2613 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 11:57 am

Most of these families need the bagman, and will negotiate with all big time universities. It’s not sold anymore on getting a free college education and room and board

If there was no bagmen in college football, I wonder if the playing field would change
Posted by Unc15smh
Member since Mar 2018
21 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:00 pm to
I've wondered how much $$$ would be in it for someone to get enough evidence to out a bunch of these.
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:00 pm to
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It’s not sold anymore on getting a free college education and room and board


it literally never was, stop pretending like things were ever different.
it's a business now and the ncaa needs to just get it over with and allow colleges to compensate the kids above board if they want to control it.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16814 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:01 pm to
No it's not. I think it's about getting bread winner if family a job so the kids parents can move with the kid. Insurance policies incase big name player gets hurt.

Now are ther times for cars yes but it's more about being with your son if school is far away.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12369 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:19 pm to
Who do you think provides all that? You think some kids family from the ghettos of Miami or New Orleans have the money to uproot the entire family and move to another state because their kid chose a certain school? Of course they don't. And getting them a job, many don't have jobs in the first place. These kids at these "private" or select high schools are compensated then and continue to be in college. They are the lottery ticket and many of the families see them as such. They have very profitable commodities and aren't letting them go for nothing. It's the American way. If you have something valuable you bargain for the best price.
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2014
1507 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:24 pm to
Let kids sign pro contracts, enter the draft, but play in college.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30041 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:29 pm to
I can buy that.


But if we all agree that it’s about the bag man, are we saying that our bagman did better for A Gilbert?

What if we got Burch? Are we saying that we just outbid USC?

I’m conflicted.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:31 pm to
I like the endorsement thing. It won’t get rid of the bag men but it will dilute their power. Booster money won’t mean as much to a five star who is already getting big bucks from Nike.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

it's a business now and the ncaa needs to just get it over with and allow colleges to compensate the kids above board if they want to control it.



Why do people think these kids are not getting paid above board? The P5 schools started paying the scholarship players the Cost of Attendance stipend a few yrs ago. This is about $4-5k per semester (despite being on scholarship for tuition and room and board). The COA is based on a person who attends with no financial aid.

The problem is that there is a pecking order and the better ones are always going to want more.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:36 pm to
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I like the endorsement thing.


This is what the California law was supporting but when you think about it is a horrible idea. It means that when you recuit a kid then you will have to have a local business with a "support package." You talk about an arms race...
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:41 pm to
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colleges to compensate the kids


Wait a second this isn’t about paying kids in college.

This is about recruiting. The bag man will always be around. There was an interesting statistic out the other day, of all the top 300 recruits in America something crazy like the top 100 recruits were only spread across 8 schools. That’s what is really unfair to the rest of the country.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10382 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:11 pm to
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This is about recruiting. The bag man will always be around. There was an interesting statistic out the other day, of all the top 300 recruits in America something crazy like the top 100 recruits were only spread across 8 schools. That’s what is really unfair to the rest of the country.


Is it a coincidence that these same schools have the most athletic revenue?
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:21 pm to
Even if the NCAA allows players to have endorsement deals the bag men will still be a factor based on greed. We all want as much money as possible and recruits are no different.
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