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re: Florida NOT hiring Patrick Surtain Sr..... Hired Charlton Warren as DB Coach

Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:33 am to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:33 am to
I think Surtain Sr would make an excellent DB coach, but I'm glad they didn't hire him, it would have affected his son's decision even though I still think he is solid to LSU.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7193 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:13 am to
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Probably couldn't get a guarantee that Jr would sign.


I thought the new rules would guarantee that they couldn't sign Jr if Sr was hired.

From the AJC



Running backs coach Dell McGee directs the players during offensive drills at Wednesday's practice. (Randy Schafer/Special)

Georgia high school football coaches are upset about a new NCAA rule that severely curbs the incentive of college programs to hire them.



Former Georgia coaches such as Mickey Conn of Grayson, Dell McGee of Carver-Columbus and Olten Downs of Creekside in recent years have cashed in their high school successes to get jobs in college ball as support staff members and eventually as on-field assistant coaches.

Those kinds of hires are now discouraged under NCAA bylaw 11.4.3, passed last week. The new rule is designed to prevent college programs from hiring high school coaches, parents, trainers or handlers just to get a recruiting advantage.

Going forward, an FBS school can hire a high school coach as one its 10 on-field coaches, but cannot add one to its support staff – which is a critical professional stepping stone – unless the college has not recruited one of the high school coach’s players in the past two years. And if the college does hire the high school coach, the college then cannot recruit a player from the coach’s former high school for two years, making it essentially a four-year window, two years in each direction.



‘’It’s a travesty to our profession to take a guy who’s working his tail off and has a dream to move up and now doesn’t have the ability to do that,’’ said Ahmand Tinker, the executive director of the Minority Coaches Association of Georgia. ‘’In a nutshell, you’re limiting guys’ employment opportunities because of that rule. I’m telling you, it’s a hot topic among coaches right now.’’

The NCAA also passed a bylaw preventing FBS schools from hiring high school coaches as speakers or workers at their football camps.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:22 am to
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I thought the new rules would guarantee that they couldn't sign Jr if Sr was hired.

That applies only to support staff. They can hire whoever they want for one of the 10 on field coaches. Theory is, that head coaches aren't going to hire someone who isn't qualified for one of the 10 coaching positions just to land a recruit.
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