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re: Otto is a complete POS.

Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:59 am to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:59 am to
CFB, you think the Admins are even lurking in this thread? Well, just in case:

Admins, posters that spew their vitriolic hatred for the men and women that put their lives on the line every day for our freedom make most of us sick. We understand there is a limited form of free speech in America. But we also understand that TD does not allow all vitriolic hate speech to spew on this site.

Otto hates U.S. soldiers, and mocks one that lost his legs in an explosion while trying to defend our freedom. Legal, maybe. But surely classifies as flaming.

And Sloth defends this putrid behavior. Not sure if it's attention whoring or flaming. Either way, he's an idiot. I say that in a non-vitriolic hateful way. And God knows sloth hasn't ever served a day in his life putting his life on the line for anything, especially the U.S.

Just wanted to share my feelings with you.

Posted by QuickLikeSloth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:02 am to
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You can't differentiate between someone advocating following precedent set on this board


only precedent that should be followed is written in the guidelines. Pandering to a whimsical, subjective admin is cowardice. Like those who got Jesus crucified, or like a soccer injury, get bumped, maybe even do the bumping, then fall on the ground writhing in pain screaming for an Admin.
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Learn the difference between speech on a private site with rules and public speech


and again I was only messaging the tattle tail mentality.
Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:26 am to
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Festus



Dont let Otto get to you, that is his mission in life is to anger others. I agree his ideals are so warped that his decaying corpse would be ingnored by flies.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 2:59 pm to
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only precedent that should be followed is written in the guidelines.


And there is plenty of leeway in those guidelines for the subjective manner in which the admins enforce such bannings.

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Pandering to a whimsical, subjective admin is cowardice. Like those who got Jesus crucified, or like a soccer injury, get bumped, maybe even do the bumping, then fall on the ground writhing in pain screaming for an Admin.


To show you how odd your logic is, you cited the crucifixtion of Jesus along side a soccer player taking a fall to support argument. Good lord.
Posted by QuickLikeSloth
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:18 pm to
Exaggeration of offense is the commonality. You can't see that?
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:29 pm to
Of course, yet when you can't take into account the poster, I'm not sure what to say. Otto has a history of flaming, all the while bitching about ad hominems.

I don't get involved in threads like this normally, but the history of the poster puts nearly everything he has to say into serious doubt.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:37 pm to
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Festus


If I ever go homo, can I give you a BJ?
Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:44 pm to
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If



What do you mean IF?
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 3:45 pm
Posted by QuickLikeSloth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:45 pm to
Granted, but did you take in to account the whistle blower? If Otto is being judged on past flames, would you not look at the motive behind those who complain? Seems that they are gunning to be the guy who takes a person out. Is Otto acting in kind?
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:52 pm to
I'll say this, I know less about Festus than I do Otto, but the few interactions I have had with the guy have been nothing but pleasant and down right nice.

If you don't politically align yourself with Otto, he'll drop as many nuclear bombs on you as possible.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:53 pm to
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Granted, but did you take in to account the whistle blower?

You talkin' about me?
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If Otto is being judged on past flames, would you not look at the motive behind those who complain? Seems that they are gunning to be the guy who takes a person out. Is Otto acting in kind?

By saying Otto is a POS? You're making this way more complicated than it really needs to be.

Otto went into a thread about a soldier getting his legs blown off, and ridiculed the soldier, calling him and his kind "suckers". Most posters think that was a real POS thing to do. I started this thread for no other reason than to bring it to the attention of the admins. It's their site, they can do whatever they want with it.I don't care if they ban him. But, others on the site should have the opportunity to know that Otto is willing to ridicule soldiers on this site.

A side benefit for me was watching which trolls would come and defend Otto. Thankfully, it was few. It's embarrassing. I wish those posters supporting Otto would support our soldiers even half as much. But in their eyes, they would be supporting the enemy. It's a shame.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25338 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:57 pm to
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Otto went into a thread about a soldier getting his legs blown off, and ridiculed the soldier, calling him and his kind "suckers". Most posters think that was a real POS thing to do. I started this thread for no other reason than to bring it to the attention of the admins. It's their site, they can do whatever they want with it.I don't care if they ban him. But, others on the site should have the opportunity to know that Otto is willing to ridicule soldiers on this site.


Otto will ridicule a five year old kid if he doesn't like the parents.
Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:57 pm to
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Festus
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:05 pm to
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Otto will ridicule a five year old kid if he doesn't like the parents.

Yeah, his comments about Downs Syndrome to you made me cringe. You're a bigger man the I am CFB.

Otto can have whatever beliefs he desires, and can express them however he wants. But there are certain threads that one should not comment about when dealing with a sensitive subject. It happens all the time when someone posts about a sick family member, dying, etc. Just stay away.

If you are so undisciplined that you cannot help but take a shot, then you should be prepared to deal with the fallout. That's all I'm trying to say.
Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:10 pm to
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Otto will ridicule a five year old kid if he doesn't like the parents.



yes and spending anytime trying to understand his logic is a waste. I suspect he is sitting in his mothers basement now, popping zits and picking scabs untill he jumps into another flame. He just isnt worth the time, you cant cure stupid.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25338 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:11 pm to
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Yeah, his comments about Downs Syndrome to you made me cringe. You're a bigger man the I am CFB.


There is nothing you can do on a message board, and I refuse to get into a name calling match.

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Just stay away.


Exactly.

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If you are so undisciplined that you cannot help but take a shot, then you should be prepared to deal with the fallout. That's all I'm trying to say.


To this point, there hasn't been fallout for otto. He can run from threads after he makes such a statement and he has gone untouched by admins thus far. Those two together are a recipe to expect more of the same from otto.
Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:15 pm to
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CollegeFBRules



off topic but my mother works with the mentally disabled, specifically Trisonomy21. Not to sound rude and please do take it so Is you child what is considerd a high functioning?
Posted by QuickLikeSloth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:26 pm to
While i don't agree with his statements. His pov seems to be one of speaking the truth as he sees it, not just to invite anger.

I think this may be lost on people. The difference between opinion and flame.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25338 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:30 pm to
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Is you child what is considerd a high functioning?


No problem, Woodworker.

She's sort of in the average range, I guess. My wife and I still have the highest hopes in the world for her, but we have met with some disappointment of late. She can write her name, but doesn't really know very many of her letters or numbers.

She is mainstreamed in her Kindergarten class, but with significant help from a para-professional. The teachers have been amazing and they send home all the regular homework the rest of the class is doing. She gets it done, but suffice it to say that mom and dad have to sit with her through it all and work on it.

My four year old son is significantly beyond where his older sister (she is 7) is at the moment. It's just a matter of realistically assessing each child's abilities and pushing them forward, but not towards goals you realize they can't attain and lead to problems in the process.

I expect that she will be able to hold a job when she gets older, but it won't be anything overly challenging. I say that, but understand things like the American with Disabilities Act are highly likely to make her chance of getting a job much harder than they would be without that law in place.

We expect that she will always live with, but that in no way takes away from our hopes that she can surprise us with the things that she will achieve that her mother and I may have thought out of reach for her. :)
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 4:33 pm
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25338 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:32 pm to
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His pov seems to be one of speaking the truth as he sees it, not just to invite anger.


His P.O.V. has been influenced by bad information in some situations, and I am not saying that about things I just disagree with him on. He has just been blatantly wrong about facts that have formed his opinion on certain topics upon which he engages the dialogue.
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