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re: Keegan Bradley expected to be named 2025 Ryder Cup Captain

Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:32 pm to
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If I play you in a tennis match I will beat the shite out of you
Today yes, I’m old.

Played Becker when I was young at John Newcombe’s place. You might be a bit surprised as to who would win playing young me.

If you get the point and your buddy doesn’t what mattered more?

Getting the point.

Btw….you really aren’t getting the point at all here. What you shoot doesn’t matter.




Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:37 pm to
It’s called using common sense when evaluating a performance

A baseball player gets two hits with exit velocity of 85 mph that bloops over the infield

Another player goes hitless but had two shots right at someone with 100 mph exit velocity

A good coach would bat the second guy again if he had to choose only one to come up to the plate again

You would chose the first guy because “hits all that matters”
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:39 pm to
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And if the player was a captains pick it was a horrible pick if his player is shooting 82 even if he gets a full point, vs a captains pick who shoots 62 and loses was still a good pick
No it isn’t.

What….counts. You just seem incapable of understanding what is important in match play. They do not keep track of what you are to par. They do not care what your SG numbers are.

They care if you win, tie or lose. That’s all.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:40 pm to
Man you have consistently shitty takes on every topic. Pretty impressive.

When you resort to "i'll beat your arse in tennis" to try and win an argument on the golf board, you have already lost.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:48 pm to
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When you resort to "i'll beat your arse in tennis" to try and win an argument on the golf board, you have already lost.
Absolutely had the point whizz right over your head
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:49 pm to
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You just seem incapable of understanding what is important in match play
Over the course of multiple matches what do you think produces the most wins:

Playing good golf or playing bad golf?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19284 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:57 pm to
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It’s called using common sense when evaluating a performance
It is, try using some. You have bitched incessantly about guys who had poor SG but scored more points than guys who had better SG, and weren’t captain’s picks.

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A good coach would bat the second guy again if he had to choose only one to come up to the plate again
This ain’t baseball, not a comparable sport by any stretch of the imagination. Kirk Gibson limped to the plate against the best reliever in baseball and stroked it out of the park. That’s actually a better analogy. One guy determined to beat the other with a plan to do it and did. Still not a good analogy to golf, but better.

If you really want to talk about what a coach should or shouldn’t do, look at the afternoon session on day 2 after getting smoked 4-0 in the morning and 2.5-1.5 in the afternoon. The Ryder Cup was over on day 1.

Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:58 pm to
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Absolutely had the point whizz right over your head



No i get it. Everyone get's the point. It's just a ridiculously weak argument to make. It doesnt prove your argument, its just an attempt to stroke your ego and be a dick.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:03 pm to
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It is, try using some. You have bitched incessantly about guys who had poor SG but scored more points than guys who had better SG, and weren’t captain’s picks.
Huh? The entire team SUCKED outside of 4 players. I never made any argument against that. You simply tried to say JT didn’t play poorly and used his big bad 1-2-1 to prove that….

JT has been playing awful golf. And he continued playing awful golf at the RC. And now he is still playing poor golf

And if you simply want to use match record he was still 1-2-1.

Outside of homa and Cantlay nobody really played well on the American team. Burns and Harman were just “solid”

Everyone else played bad golf. All of them. I don’t think JTs 1-2-1 magically makes his golf that week good

This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 6:07 pm
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:08 pm to
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JT has been playing awful golf. And he continued playing awful golf at the RC. And now he is still playing poor golf


He is 17th in the fedex cup and he has 5 top 10 finishes this year. Thats awful. I bet you could whip his arse in tennis.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:13 pm to
JT is 1/3 making the cut in majors this year. 2/7 making the cuts the last two years

Yeh, he still is playing poor golf

This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 6:14 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19284 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:13 pm to
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Over the course of multiple matches what do you think produces the most wins: Playing good golf or playing bad golf?
Besting your opponent produces the most wins in match play.

If a player goes Eagle, Bogey, par. He’s -1 after 3

Other player hits 2 in the water on 1, makes a triple, par, birdie.

Who is winning?

Scottie Scheffler was #1 on the money list in 23, did that help in the Ryder Cup?

You have absolutely NO clue why the US lost. It’s not because of how people played individually. Is….not

They lost because in foursomes they got spanked 7-1. Which requires what….fisking TEAM play.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104325 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:15 pm to
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You have absolutely NO clue why the US lost. It’s not because of how people played individually. Is….not They lost because in foursomes they got spanked 7-1. Which requires what….fisking TEAM play.
Ah

So why did almost the same exact team combos do so well in 2021 and not 2023?

I mean it wasn’t the fact they played better golf in 2021 right?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19284 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:22 pm to
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Huh? The entire team SUCKED outside of 4 players. I never made any argument against that. You simply tried to say JT didn’t play poorly and used his big bad 1-2-1 to prove that…
I used him to illustrate your bitching was misplaced. Which you are incapable it seems of understanding.

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JT has been playing awful golf. And he continued playing awful golf at the RC. And now he is still playing poor golf
Again….again and again. Does not matter what he shoots. Matters if he’s better than his opponent.

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And if you simply want to use match record he was still 1-2-1.
Better than how many other players on the team?

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Everyone else played bad golf. All of them. I don’t think JTs 1-2-1 magically makes his golf that week good
If you were paying attention, which you clearly can’t do, I never said he was playing well, or poorly. I care about how many points he scored.

That’s all, because it’s the only thing that matters.

Like most losers (and trust me you assuredly are one) you’re looking for a scapegoat. If there is one here, it’s Zach Johnson not because of his captain’s picks. It’s because of his pairings in foursomes.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:26 pm to
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, it’s Zach Johnson not because of his captain’s picks. It’s because of his pairings in foursomes.


Just his preparation in general. He had them on a lame party trip to Europe. Meanwhile the Euros were using every trick in the book to pump their guys up and stack the course against us.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104325 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:27 pm to
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used him to illustrate your bitching was misplaced. Which you are incapable it seems of understanding.
MY VERY FIRDT POST IN HERE SAID WE DIDNT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE CAPTAINS PICKS

100% we didn’t lose because of JT. We lost because the euro studs outplayed ours by a lot. A shite ton actually
I’ll repost it again

In response to someone else complaining about the captains picks

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So over blown. Let’s look at the records of some of the guys that auto made it or were consensus captains picks with zero controversy

Scottie

0-2-1

Xander

1-3-0

Morikowa

1-3-0

I’ll say we will never win a Ryder cup regardless of how awesome the captain is with those dudes going a combined 2-8-1
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 6:32 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19284 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:32 pm to
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Just his preparation in general. He had them on a lame party trip to Europe. Meanwhile the Euros were using every trick in the book to pump their guys up and stack the course against us
While I get team building, what I’d have had them doing was playing alternate shot the whole time, swapping out every 9 to someone different to get them used to talking to each other.

Most of the US players absolutely suck at that, because the only person they’re used to talking to is their caddy.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104325 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:40 pm to
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While I get team building, what I’d have had them doing was playing alternate shot the whole time, swapping out every 9 to someone different to get them used to talking to each other. Most of the US players absolutely suck at that, because the only person they’re used to talking to is their caddy.
such a lazy easy take

Xander/Cantlay plus Spieth/thomas pairings went 3-1 in 2021 and 0-3-1 in 2023

It’s on the damn players to play. Captain didn’t magically make a difference with the EXACT SAME pairings above
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19284 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:19 pm to
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It’s on the damn players to play. Captain didn’t magically make a difference with the EXACT SAME pairings above
Are they playing the same course?

Same conditions?

Same clubs and balls even?

I seriously wonder if you’ve ever played golf at this point.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104325 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:49 pm to
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Are they playing the same course? Same conditions? Same clubs and balls even? I seriously wonder if you’ve ever played golf at this point.
So Zach Johnson shouldn’t have used the pairings of Spieth/Thomas and Xander/Cantlay that had success in 2021?

If he doesn’t and USA loses you would kill him
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