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Rooster, do you know anything about Phil Longo to SC?

Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:02 pm
Posted by chawk195
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:02 pm
From what I’ve read, there’s some interest between SC and Muschamp for the OM OC. I really like this guy and I think he would work wonders with the guys we have on our roster on Offense.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:19 pm to
Have not heard a peep. I'm going to start calling around tomorrow now that I am feeling better ... I might get lucky with some info. I will say this, mUSChamp runs a top secret operation - no one ever seems to know anything these days until just before the news breaks.
Posted by chawk195
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 11:57 pm to
What do you think about it if that comes to be the case? And also I read an article on SDS (crapshoot) that was talking about long shots and had KC Keeler and John Gross. Is S.C. a big enough job to land either?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:58 pm to
SC is a big enough job to lure anyone on that list here. It's all about money, fan support, fertile recruiting grounds, facilities and conference affiliation these days ... and we have all of those going for us.

The wild card is being given free reign. I think mUSChamp is wanting to find a guy he feels comfortable giving free reign to when it comes to our offense. Someone who knows how to adjust and mold his scheme around, based on what he has on-hand in terms of talent.

What makes all great OCs great, what sets them apart from others, is being flexible within their system. Having a feel for the strengths and weaknesses of their personnel.

Spurrier was the master in his younger days. I remember watching him draw plays in the dirt on the sidelines at Duke. He would get into a groove in a game and no defense could totally shut him down ... and he did it with players no one else wanted.

Is there that kind of coach out there? Who knows. But we need someone who makes it fun for the players. Someone who puts them into situations where they can be successful, someone who they will trust.

I think that is what he is looking for in a new OC. This is a critical hire for him ... deja vous all over again as Yogi Berra once said. He's gotta get this right.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:04 am to
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SC is a big enough job to lure anyone on that list here. It's all about money, fan support, fertile recruiting grounds, facilities and conference affiliation these days ... and we have all of those going for us.


Right. Its a question of finding a guy that is the right fit and runs the sort of offense that Muschamp wants at USC. And kudos for y'all playing your cards close to the vest on this one. The nightmare at Tennessee shows what happens when you blab about who your coaching targets are.

You know, he's going to be on the market and without Bielema holding him back Dan Enos could make a fine OC for someone. He has SEC experience and while our lack of an O-line and an injured QB (because of our O-Line play) crippled the offense last year Enos put up some quality numbers his first two years at Arkansas.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:32 pm to
I've gotten some info on this fwiw ... it's vague but here goes:

mUSChamp had a yardstick high stack of resumes on his desk. A lot of OCs and potential OCs want the job. He wanted someone who had OC experience.

He narrowed it down to four and has spent time focusing-on and talking-to those four. One in particular he was/is hoping to lure away from another program.

Decision has been made. We're waiting on the details of all the new contracts to be ironed-out between agents and our attorneys, our AD and Board of Trustees.

Boom is getting a nice raise but he sacrificed some to make more room for his assistants and this new hire and that's what's being worked-out ... who gets what cut and incentives built into T-Rob's, BMac's, Lance Romance's and the new OC's contracts.

Should be announcing pretty soon. It's all pretty-much done.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:51 pm to
Thanks for what you do Rooster. Love to buy ya a beer sometime.


EDIT: when you say

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One in particular he was/is hoping to lure away from another program.


Do you know if he was successful in this endeavor now that its a done deal?
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Boom is getting a nice raise but he sacrificed some to make more room for his assistants and this new hire


I will be the first to admit... I thought Muschamp was going to be the interim hire. He'd recruit well, last two, maybe three seasons, and then you'd get someone else.

Hell, I called him Moosechimp.

Well I was wrong. He was the right choice for you guys from the get go. I think he was handed a poisoned chalice at Florida and what he went through matured him a great deal as a coach.

If you land a good OC then I think y'all will be just fine going forward.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Do you know if he was successful in this endeavor now that its a done deal?



I tried hard to find out, or at least get a hint ... and all I got was laughed-at. So I laughed back. I just have no clue.

Well, that's not exactly correct. During the course of the conversation(s) it was casually mentioned something about Boom having worked-with ... but then I think he realized he did it and threw a wrench in there about not necessarily having to have worked-with.

Knowing Boom's history it leads me to believe it is probably someone he has history with at the very least but, at the same time, who's to say he might not take a different path this time around and go for someone everyone else is saying is a can't miss OC?

And here's the other dynamic involved as I was told.

mUSChamp got someone who gave him a three year commitment and the contract is going to reflect that. A couple of coaches removed from consideration early were evidently looking for a stopover job on the way to a quick HC gig somewhere. I can only imagine who those two might be but evidently they also interviewed or applied for some smaller HC gigs. Boom wanted a commitment with two way buyouts. So that's all the possible hints I deduced and take'em fwiw. I guess once the announcement is made it'll all become clear.

Talking points are, "we're close ... details being worked-out ... announcement will be made soon."

Is it someone presently involved with a bowl team?

"We'll let you know when the time is right. Nothing is finalized yet."

I mean it is all typical stuff - doesn't seem to be affecting recruiting. You know, normally you can get something from a recruit or two. Not this time. JC and Kornblut and all of them are asking recruits if they've been told anything and none of them have heard a peep. So they are playing this close to the vest. Gotta hand it to mUSChamp - the man runs an incredibly tight ship.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:49 pm to
Money's on Lashlee. I've always thought that would be the guy.
Posted by lungbuster06
Member since Dec 2014
639 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:09 pm to
He does seem to fit the mold of what Champ wants to run. Considering the talent he had on hand at UConn and the improvements made, Lashlee is a hire I can get behind.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:15 pm to
The offense that Champ said he wanted to run when he was hired was Gus's offense. The narrative surrounding Roper was that a) they would create wrinkles for the opposition during the week that would never get called on gameday, b) refused to stray from what he wanted to do conceptually vs what was asked of him to do, c) would not even let other offensive coaches have a opinion on how the offense should look until halfway through this season, however as stated above, once game day rolled around he went back to calling whatever tfrick he wanted.


TLDR version: I wouldn't look at the Muschamp offenses we've seen and assume that is how he wants his offense to look.



EDIT: holy fricking shite I just typed all that because I cant read. Totally thought you said he didn't fit the mold of what champ wants.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted by lungbuster06
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:21 pm to
All good bud...Monday afternoon blues
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:48 pm to
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Money's on Lashlee. I've always thought that would be the guy.


Same here.
Posted by U_south_cack
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:54 pm to
Rooster, thoughts on drinkwitz from nc state? He’d also fit the profile
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:33 pm to
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Rooster, thoughts on drinkwitz from nc state? He’d also fit the profile


Have not heard his name one time but I was out of the loop for a couple of weeks.

Whoever it is - he's gonna be a strong recruiter too. Is Drinkwitz a strong recruiter?
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:17 am to
He strikes me as another roper. Beta nerd.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:01 am to
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Beta


Love using this insult.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 8:28 am
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:23 am to
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 6:54 am to
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Is Drinkwitz a strong recruiter?



No. Not at all. he's only recruited about 4 guys total, he has 0 for this cycle. His strongest recruiting move was to get the QB from Boise St, that he didn't recruit in the first place, to transfer to NC St when he got the job there.

I actually posed that question to JC over at 247, if he wasn't able to plug and play a QB who already new his system in when he got to NC St would we even be talking about this guy because theres no way they have the success this year without it.
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