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Posted on 11/29/20 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Regardless, that's a weirdly elitist position from which to judge people.
I’m not judging anyone. I listen to audio books sometimes. I just don’t count it as reading.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 6:14 pm to
Sally, all of the definitions you just linked however involve either the term reading (something that is happening), in which one person/thing is doing the reading, and everyone else is just listening (or reading the reading in the case of the computer or the measuring devices), or the verb read, where someone is either reading directly or using visual clues to make a determination. To read something in and of itself in those definitions involves using your eyes to look at a book (or fingers in the case of the blind) or study a person.

In the end, a person who is completely illiterate and incapable of reading at all can still listen to an audiobook, which to me nullifies it as a form of reading.

Reading a play is completely different from hearing it performed. The same goes for hearing a poem read aloud. I'd say hearing it would arguably be the superior way to experience it, but you yourself aren't reading it.

We are all being wonderfully pedantic here I suppose.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Charter Embers
Member since Nov 2019
133 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:24 pm to
Listening to audiobooks may not be reading but it is “consuming literature.” And to those of us that read more than an hour a day but less than 50 books a year, we’re listening-or whatever you want to call it- to the narrator in our heads.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8595 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Listening to audiobooks may not be reading but it is “consuming literature.” 


Without a doubt, as I said in one of my previous posts in this thread, it's a fine way to consume/interact with books. I don't listen to them myself, but it's more of a me problem. The narration is too slow for me compared to my reading speed, so I wind up tuning them out. I'm not ADHD, but I might as well be when it comes to audiobooks. I can definitely see the appeal for anyone who travels a lot for work or has a long commute.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:00 am to
My main one was the "understand or interpret the nature or significance of" that I felt could be applied to a person listening to an audiobook if they so choose.

You also have computers which read in audio inputs and since we are all just advanced AI running in a simulation - seems like we can read audio.


(My main goal was to get to utterly technical it sort of ruined that discussion and ended the audiobook reading argument).
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 8:01 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 9:38 am to
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I felt could be applied to a person listening to an audiobook if they so choose.


That’s the thing. Listening is not reading.

I’m not saying one is better then the other, just they aren’t the same.

Again, I’ll use the podcast example. I had an episode of knifepoint horror on during my drive to work. By your definition I was “reading”. I argue that could not be more wrong.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:51 am to
Well your various voice command programs are reading audio inputs and interpreting them so I'd argue that if a person is hearing and interpreting audio inputs - it can be called reading in a technical manner based on one of the many ways that word is used in practice.



ETA: we have also come to a clear impasse in the discussion and can probably move on at this point.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 11:55 am
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:13 pm to
Physical books most, but I travel with kindle, and tidy the house to mysteries on Audible
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29095 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 12:53 am to
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Physical book. I stare at a computer screen 8+ hours a day. I don't want to do that during my down time.


Same.
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1280 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:13 pm to
I read during breaks at work. I didn't think I would but I like my Kindle. Much easier than hauling physical books around at work.
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