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re: How Powerful was Carlos Marcello?
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:36 pm to Kafka
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:36 pm to Kafka
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NO was never an intellectual capital, like Paris in the 19th century or NY 1920s-1950s
It was more like a Franco-American Havana, devil's playground in the middle of Dixie
NO downfall is due to three factors: demographics, backward thinking elite, and the rise of of other Southern cities. The ascent of Houston was probably unstoppable, but there is no obvious reason Dallas and Atlanta ("NY's southern branch office") had to become as big and powerful as they are, if NO people had understood the future.
NOLA's elites were so wrapped up in their krewes, clubs and debutante societies that they didn't notice the ground shifting under their feet. Now it's too late. They wouldn't let outsiders into their little cliques so of course no major corporations wanted to locate there. C Level executives aren't accustomed to being looked down on. Suddenly the world has passed them by and now even their own children and grandchildren are leaving for greener pastures--while still coming back for Carnival season.
That's only part of it, and probably not the biggest part, but it's something I've noticed as an observer with no skin in the game.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:59 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:I recall reading in the '90s that NO upper crusters were having trouble finding enough girls to fill out their debutante balls
NOLA's elites were so wrapped up in their krewes, clubs and debutante societies that they didn't notice the ground shifting under their feet. Now it's too late.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:16 am to Jim Rockford
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They wouldn't let outsiders into their little cliques so of course no major corporations wanted to locate there. C Level executives aren't accustomed to being looked down on. Suddenly the world has passed them by and now even their own children and grandchildren are leaving for greener pastures--
You know what the funny thing these days is? The powers that be at upper crust krewes that have seen their ranks decline are super jealous of the growth of krewes like muses and iris and Thoth. They'll never admit outside of closed doors but they know that's the only way to survive long term.
But God forbid they open the door to people who's family they don't know to ensure survival. It's such a new Orleans mentality it's fricking comical.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:11 am to Jim Rockford
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NOLA's elites were so wrapped up in their krewes, clubs and debutante societies that they didn't notice the ground shifting under their feet.
The world had moved on.
Posted on 11/25/21 at 1:55 pm to Jim Rockford
This is quite possibly the best paragraph I’ve ever seen to describe New Orleans socialite scene.
Nobody outside of New Orleans cares. People inside New Orleans care so so much.
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Also for the one poster who said they think most of the mob has moved to the north shore
One of my good friends in college who we all agreed his dad was in the mob lives on the north shore.
Had really wild stories about his dad. Said his dad woke him up at 2 in the morning in a full suit. And made him drive him to a 4 way stop out in the boonies. And drop him off and go home. And this is a guy who never jokes about anything.
Nobody outside of New Orleans cares. People inside New Orleans care so so much.
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Also for the one poster who said they think most of the mob has moved to the north shore
One of my good friends in college who we all agreed his dad was in the mob lives on the north shore.
Had really wild stories about his dad. Said his dad woke him up at 2 in the morning in a full suit. And made him drive him to a 4 way stop out in the boonies. And drop him off and go home. And this is a guy who never jokes about anything.
This post was edited on 11/25/21 at 2:02 pm
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