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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?

Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:05 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:05 am to
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He had Michigan State on the upswing after they'd kinda faded into mediocrity under Perles.


Really, it wasn't until his final season at MSU that they had gotten beyond right around .500. Saban had an NFL background, but it wasn't like Belichek was Bleichek at that time. Bill was probably seen as more of "brains" behind the defense even with Saban as the DC just like some Saban's DC's are looked at now. What sold LSU the most was Nick had a very detailed plan/vision of how he was going to tap into the "natural resources" LSU was wasting (tremendous talent pool both in state and regionally).

Many may not want to admit it, but in a lot of ways Mel Tucker's resume mirrors Saban's before he came to LSU. Lots of NFL experience and the same year the LSU job comes open he is having a great season with MSU. Even their ages are about the same at that point in their careers (Saban was ~49 when LSU hired him; Tucker is 49 now)

NO DOUBT that is what Tucker's agent (a guy named Jimmy Sexton) is selling to MSU. He's probably saying "You had Nick Saban here and you let him get away to LSU. Don't make the same mistake twice!!"

Now, is it realistic to think Tucker would achieve the same level of success Saban has? Of course not. But if you want to see who has probably the most pre-LSU Saban-esque resume, it is probably Tucker.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:12 am to
Uhh first of all Emmert hired him Joe Dean was not involved.

Saban was 43-26-1 versus Melvin's 16-13 record (about to be 16-14). Saban had one of top defenses in Big 10 Tucker's Mich St defense is 10th out of 14 in scoring defense in Big 10 and 14th out of 14 in total defense!

Not similiar at all.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4558 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:12 am to
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He had Michigan State on the upswing after they'd kinda faded into mediocrity under Perles.
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Really, it wasn't until his final season at MSU that they had gotten beyond right around .500.
That's not on the upswing when they had been consistently below .500 prior to his arrival?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43176 posts
Posted on 11/20/21 at 7:11 am to
It was Emmett’s hire and I’m sure Woodward was doing some behind the scenes research at the time
Dean was told that in no way would he be running this search
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