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Posted on 9/26/08 at 7:14 am
Posted by MikeKnottTiger
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Posted on 9/26/08 at 7:14 am
Anyone see this movie?? I am going to view it later today, it looks pretty damn good..
heres the trailer
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Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 2:40 pm to
Very good movie, ck it out.
Posted by Chunkdog
God's Country
Member since Oct 2005
801 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 3:03 pm to
I thought it was a very good movie. I wanted to be the shite out of that father & son.
Posted by CTexTiger
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
4988 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 4:05 pm to
I was excited about this one, but it turned out a little flat IMO. Everything happened way to fast to be completely believeable. Loved the idea though... and I wanted the kid and dad dead also.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155294 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 4:37 pm to
Looks interesting.

Hard to believe that's Tom Sizemore though. He looks different.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40924 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 6:23 pm to
Er..... I watched the trailer so I guess that's about the whole movie.

I mean, from that trailer you can piece together almost everything in the movie.

Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 6:40 pm to
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I watched the trailer so I guess that's about the whole movie.
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I mean, from that trailer you can piece together almost everything in the movie.
more genius
This post was edited on 9/29/08 at 6:41 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40924 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 7:30 pm to
SPOILERS!!!!

I don't get your point. From that trailer I bet you can piece everything out. What's the point?

I hate trailers that give away the whole movie.

From that trailer we see Cox's dog killed. We see his attempt to get justice.

He goes to the Father of the kids that killed the dog. The Father is a dick. Tells him to sue him.

He goes to the local sheriff. He goes to either an attorney or maybe a reporter not sure.

NADA.

He brings the dead dog back to the father and a shootout ensues.

You hear one of the boys asking if it is too late to say he is sorry.

The last scene may or may not be Cox standing over a grave. It could be the dog's grave or the grave of the father and sons, but in either case it means he survives and the boys probably die.

That trailer destroyed most of the suspense and tension in the movie.

I could be wrong on my guesses, but instead of making me want to see the film, the trailer made me think I had already seen the film.

Epic Fail on the trailer.
This post was edited on 9/29/08 at 7:50 pm
Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 8:53 pm to
simply my point is how do you know everything about the movie is in the trailer IF you haven't seen the entire movie to confirm your theory.

Well you accurately described the trailer but not the entire movie, just the parts shown in the trailer.
Several meaningful things not covered for example.
whats the wifes role in this and what does one learn from her presence.
another, a brother had significance to the movie, also there was a reporter as you suggested, can you from what the trailer showed elaborate on those 3 things and what important things they contribute to the storyline..
........ of course you can't, because you didn't see the entire movie, you merely assumed you knew it all from what the trailer showed... epic fail as a moviegoer and critic...

viewers get an idea of the movie is about from the trailer, thats what they are for.
This post was edited on 9/29/08 at 8:56 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40924 posts
Posted on 9/29/08 at 9:43 pm to
You can't argue that the trailer doesn't show to much about main plot from start to finish.

That trailer clearly takes out a lot of the dramatic tension that I would have felt had I watched the movie without seeing that trailer.

Clearly a 3 minute trailer does not show an entire film, but that trailer gives way too much away.

And still EPIC FAIL on the trailer.

They should not have shown the guns going off and they should not have put the kid asking if it was too late to say he was sorry.
This post was edited on 9/29/08 at 9:44 pm
Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 6:57 am to
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You can't argue that the trailer doesn't show to much about main plot from start to finish.

Thats essentially what trailers are supposed to do, I can debate that point.
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That trailer clearly takes out a lot of the dramatic tension that I would have felt had I watched the movie without seeing that trailer.
again you seem to think you know all of this without even seeing the movie to confirm those thoughts. Sorry but thats impossible unless someone else has told you all about a particular movie.
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but that trailer gives way too much away.
once again mere speculation by someone who has not seen the movie.
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They should not have shown the guns going off and they should not have put the kid asking if it was too late to say he was sorry.
and you should actually watch the movie if you want to intelligently attempt to discuss it. Hows about we move the discussion to a book you haven't read, like maybe the bible.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155294 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 7:53 am to
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MikeKnottTiger

Idiot.

If you don't think that trailer is awfully telling, then you're fooling yourself.
Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 8:24 am to
telling? yes like a high percentage of trailers are BUT it does not give away everything and thinking one knows the movie by just watching the trailer is foolish. so if thats what you think too then you are a short, foolish idiot, but really, wasn't that established years ago.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155294 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 9:47 am to
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telling? yes like a high percentage of trailers

Incorrect. Most trailers are not like that one.
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if thats what you think too then you are a short, foolish idiot, but really, wasn't that established years ago.

I win.
Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 1:49 pm to
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I win.

yeah sure ya do little fella, sure ya do.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155294 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 3:27 pm to
:coco2:
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40924 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 5:14 am to
First off, I have read the bible cover to cover so I am not sure your point about that.

Second, you are wrong. A good trailer is supposed to build suspense not alleviate suspense.

That is a terrible trailer.

Once again, the last shot of the trailer shows, Cox on crutches with a shovel.

From that scene, one can easily come to the belief, that he survives the shootout and possibly the boys do not. That was a terrible way to end the trailer.

There are numerous scenes in that trailer they did not need to show. They did not need to show the dog being killed, they did not need to show the boy asking if it was too late, they did not need to show the fire and they really didn't need to show Cox on crutches with a shovel.

You are an idiot if you believe that trailer does not give away most of the movie.

Yes, there is a back story to the dog, but once again my point is most of the tension is removed by that trailer and if you can't see that then maybe you aren't as smart as you think you are.

This trailer Fails! And No I don't need to see the movie to determine if a trailer fails. The whole freaking point of a trailer is to make me want to see a movie which this one does not since fair or not it makes me feel like I have seen most of the movie.

Geez, did you make the trailer? You are spending enough time defending this worthless trailer to make me think you are the one that made it.

By the way, I'm sure the movie is good as Brian Cox is always great, but alas I like to go in fresh as Jersey Tiger always likes to say and that is impossible after viewing that trailer.
This post was edited on 10/1/08 at 5:22 am
Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 6:52 am to
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You are an idiot if you believe that trailer does not give away most of the movie.
I saw the movie and that gives me solid ground to decide what the trailer did and did not do, you on the other hand DID NOT see the trailer so you really don't know what it did or did not do, you only have theory. Of course no amount of common sense can get thru to those who THINK they know it all.
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You are spending enough time defending this worthless trailer to make me think you are the one that made it.
For such a worthless trailer and a movie you have never seen you sure are spending mucho amounts of time bashing it. Spend time watching a movie then you qualify to say what a trailer did or did not do in relation to the entire movie. If YOU can't see that then you are definitely not as smart as you think you are and less smart that I KNOW you are.
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but once again my point is most of the tension is removed by that trailer
obviously you have quite of tension built up and you may need to revisit your #1 fan, your right hand.

Hell a guess a movie marathon to you is an hour of watching Nothing but Trailers on hdnet.
PLEASE start a weekly movie review thread via your trailer system, that would be
This post was edited on 10/1/08 at 6:58 am
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40924 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 7:25 am to
You fail. I did watch the movie and as I stated the trailer is the majority of the movie. I would have enjo0yed the movie much more without knowledge of the dog death, the store fire, the baseball bat fight, and Cox on crutches.

The only main plot left out of the trailer is the explanation behind why he loves the dog so much and the reporter angle which takes up about 10 minutes of the movie.

And, I didn't say all trailers give away the full movie, you said that. Most good trailers try to add to suspense not take it away.



This post was edited on 10/1/08 at 7:33 am
Posted by MikeKnottTiger
Member since Sep 2008
289 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:28 pm to
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I did watch the movie
I call BS on that. You make it quite clear that you did not watch the movie only the trailer. You clearly state you needed not watch the movie because the trailer told the whole story.so take that BS elsewhere.

elaborate on the brother and mother, what did they add to the background of the story. Also what about the friend and his parents? .....

sinking to lies is childish, much like an 11 yr old eh edit man.
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