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re: FDR was an awful president and MacArthur was an awful general.

Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:04 pm to
FDR is damn near unanimously a top five president in any poll of historians. He wasn't elected to an unprecedented fourth term by his contemporaries for no reason. If not for FDR, we may be speaking a different language or living a 2nd world lifestyle right now.

Social Security has been abused by Congress for decades...the idea itself was a necessity. You can't be a civilized society while your elders are dying on the streets, homeless and starving. The Depression was a direct result of unadulterated capitalism, and it wasn't a pretty sight.

FDR was a capitalist through and through, but also recognized you couldn't run a society on unabated/unregulated capitalist principles.

As to MacArthur, from what I've read he basically went from being a brilliant tactician and leader to something akin to Colonel Kurtz...ate up with war, violence, death, and living a different reality than the rest of us.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 7:06 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:16 pm to
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If not for FDR, we may be speaking a different language or living a 2nd world lifestyle right now.


lol, no.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:20 pm to
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FDR is damn near unanimously a top five president in any poll of historians. He wasn't elected to an unprecedented fourth term by his contemporaries for no reason. If not for FDR, we may be speaking a different language or living a 2nd world lifestyle right now.

Social Security has been abused by Congress for decades...the idea itself was a necessity. You can't be a civilized society while your elders are dying on the streets, homeless and starving. The Depression was a direct result of unadulterated capitalism, and it wasn't a pretty sight.

FDR was a capitalist through and through, but also recognized you couldn't run a society on unabated/unregulated capitalist principles.


FDR is a bottom five president in the real world. I don't give a shite what some historian says. He was a massive piece of shite and didn't see a single word of the US Constitution that he didn't want to wipe his arse with at a moment's notice. We most assuredly would be 1000000x better off had he not been president during the depression. He prolonged it by years and then in turn, what did we get for him prolonging it? One of the largest, most steaming piles of shite ever thought up, social security. What he did was create a permanent class that is dependent on taxpayer dollars.

He was as anti-capitalist a president as we've ever had. He was a piece of shite and if Wilson planted the seed for massive government spending and leftism in government, then Roosevelt is the person that got the ball rolling. frick him, he deserves all the ridicule that is thrown his way.

But of course, you've never met a massive left wing jackass that you wouldn't gladly felate.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 7:22 pm
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