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re: Early baseball observations

Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:41 pm to
I made this post on another site breaking down what I see as possible cuts right now, meaning this can and likely will change over the course of the next month or so. Some of y'all will probably hate it, call me crazy or dumb, and downvote to oblivion because it will have some well known and liked names as possible cuts. And that is fine, but instead of criticizing, if you disagree, tell me why and who you think would be cut instead:

The breakdown of players currently (counting Shaffer who won't be here till January) is 22 pitchers and 27 position players. It is unlikely that Johnson cuts more than 1-2 pitchers, as he has traditionally carried at least 20 pitchers on a roster, and I think it is more likely that it is only 1, leaving 8 cuts from position players.

Of the 27 position players, 15 are returning players from last year's team: Crews, C. Doughty, Morgan, Thompson, Dugas, Milazzo, Drost, Gio, Cranford, Safford, B. Doughty, Bianco, Beloso, Travinski, and Wyeth. I think it is almost inevitable that whatever cuts there are will come from those 15 as it would be hard to see Johnson cutting a true freshman or even someone that just transferred here unless they are just that bad.

Of the 15 returners, I think there are at least 5-6 guarantees, which are the first 6 I listed. That brings you to 9 players left. There has been discussion and it is possible that Travinski may be able to qualify for a medical redshirt, thus not counting him towards the 40 and eliminating the need to cut 8 players; so now we have 7 cuts from probably 8 players to do it from. If Drost stays performing the way he is then he will be safe. That means the remaining returners would be your 7 that get cut, which would be Gio, Cranford, Safford, B. Doughty, Bianco, Beloso, and Wyeth. Only way any of them get protected is if Johnson cuts 2 pitchers instead of 1 and cuts any freshmen or transfers.

That would be a pretty astonishing list of players to cut.
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6064 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 5:54 pm to
It's an interesting point of view. I know Johnson values senior leadership. Johnson didn't recruit any of the new signers besides Priester and Haddad.

So if Beloso, Gio, Bianco and Cranford outplay Simon, Holt, Smith and Haddad you believe they will still keep the younger players?

Let's say you keep the younger guys and next year you have a new set of younger guys. Do you keep the younger guys even they are outplayed?

I would have to lean on the guys that give me the best chance this year.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279482 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:15 pm to
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If Drost stays performing the way he is then he will be safe


The only way Drost leaves is if he wants to. I don’t understand some of the comments on him in this thread
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
9554 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:51 pm to
I think all of these are at risk: Gio, Cranford, Safford, B. Doughty, Beloso, Wyeth, Hasty, Brady. I'm beginning to wonder about Fowler, too. Travinski may get a redshirt, then you have a possible injury to Leto that may warrant a redshirt...Haddad, Holt, Dutton, G Fontenot, and Taylor are also redshirt candidates.

ETA: I do agree that JJ will be more patient with the younger guys that he has more time to develop. He may hang onto some of the older, fringe guys if he chooses to redshirt the younger guys. B Doughty will almost definitely be here in some capacity. I don't think Beloso leaves, either, even if he's last on the depth chart.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4539 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 6:09 am to
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TigerLaw40


I understand that you are spelling out the numbers crunch JJ has with this roster.

The real question in my mind is what will he value in year #1? Senior leadership or the potential of young guys that have never had their chance? Another way to put it…..do the upper class men buy in more than kids that he really did not have time to recruit?

Or, he simply keeps the kids that buy in to his system the most? I think this is your answer. Top Talent can be replenished quickly with transfers of a tr FR with a NIL deal. JJ will keep the kids that buy in and create the right locker room culture over the kids that may seem to have more long run potential.
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