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re: Calm Down Liberals - No one is coming for your abortions

Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:00 am to
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26840 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:00 am to
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Oh pahfreakinlease.

The point the poster was making is if they're ever able to test in any way for the likelihood of being gay in utero, the left will have a sudden come to Jesus moment on abortion

AND YOU ALL KNOW IT


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Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
14026 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:50 am to
My personal belief is that life does not begin at conception. The potential for life begins at conception but that is not the same thing. A lot can happen between when something goes in and something comes out. You can't know whether or not someone who has an abortion wouldn't have had a miscarriage had they decided differently. Also there is a difference between life and a life. You can argue that life begins when a heartbeat is detected. Whatever, my point of view is that a life begins when that life has suffienctly developed circulatory, respiratory, and digestive systems to a point that it is not dependent upon being attached to a tube that supplies all of these things via the mother. Then it is a separate life from the mother's. Until then it is part of the mother because if the mother doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. That's the pro-choice part of me.

Here is the pro-life part of me. Just because I believe all of the above to be true does not mean that your argument that "being anti-abortion means you are anti-women" makes any sense. So you are telling me that being against a medical procedure that has resulted in millions of women never being born is being anti-women. Are you sure you don't want to think about this a little more?

I've never figured out how to make a consistent argument one way or the other on the subject so I'm fairly whatever about it. I feel it shouldn't be used as a get out of a pregnancy free card but there are a lot of circumstances that fall under a case by case basis for me. What about expectant mothers who are drug addicts? What about people who know they are frick ups and can not handle any meaningful responsibility? Is it fair to dump a child into that environment? I know people will say you can always give the kid up for adoption. I've never understood how you always hear that there are waiting lists of people who have been waiting years to adopt children but their are also orphanages full of children waiting to be adopted. If you believe in the concept of supply and demand then both of those things should not be happening at the same time. I would be more swayed by the adoption angle if there was some kind of guarantee that every one of these unwanted pregnancies would end with an adoption as soon as the real mother gives birth but that does not seem to happen.

The whole issue seems like it tastes like a shite sandwich no matter where I bite into it from. I guess that is why it has never seemed like a particularly vital issue for me to concern myself with compared to other issues of the day.
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