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Posted on 8/21/21 at 4:57 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 4:57 am to
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Empires and governments have crumbled throughout history with little Devine intervention.


I'm pretty sure the late-first and early-second century Christians would have disagreed with you had they lived to see the fourth and fifth centuries. St. John the Evangelist's entire Apocalypse (aka Revelation) was likely centered on the promise of the Fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of Christianity.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21633 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:18 am to
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Empires and governments have crumbled throughout history with little Devine intervention.


We really don't know that, do we?
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:22 am to
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I'm pretty sure the late-first and early-second century Christians would have disagreed with you had they lived to see the fourth and fifth centuries. St. John the Evangelist's entire Apocalypse (aka Revelation) was likely centered on the promise of the Fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of Christianity.


But Rome didn't fall, it adopted Christianity and rolled right on. Rome adopted Christianity in 307 and the West didn't fall for another 170 years. The East rolled on until 1453.

There have been plenty of "Christian" empires that rose and fell since Rome. The Holy Roman empire, Spain, France (twice), Austria-Hungarian empire, Prussian, British Empire, etc. The map is littered with crumbled states and changed governments many devolved into anarchy, murder and chose.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10570 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 1:01 pm to
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St. John the Evangelist's entire Apocalypse (aka Revelation) was likely centered on the promise of the Fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of Christianity.

Wrong.
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