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re: USA has lost its last two major wars

Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:12 pm to
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We kicked the ever living shite out of the Iraqis and we owned Afghanistan until the American people lost the will to fight.



We were not even fighting in Afghanistan any more. The last American KIA in Afghanistan was February of last year. we’d moved on to advisory and peacekeeping. Last year the cost of being in Afghanistan made up a whopping 1% of the national budget.

The truth is the Afghan Army for the past several years had shouldered the majority of the fighting and the last 5-6 years virtually all the fighting on the ground. Look at the casualty rates year by year:
American casualties by month and year

Research by Brown University estimates losses in the Afghan security forces at 69,000

The last time the US monthly casualty total was even in double digits was June 2014 when 13 servicemen died.

So the truth of Afghanistan was is has not been a “forever war” for the US. The Afghan Army was doing the fighting and were waging the type of war we trained them to fight, namely a combined arms land/air war where ground units could and did rely on air support for both combat and logistics needs. When Biden pulled eveyone out he also took the civilian contractors who maintained the Afgan air assets. Suddenly the Afghan army that has been fighting for years found it’s main ally was abandoning them and worse yet crippling their air assets. This is why the Afghan army collapsed in sudden fashion.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 7:58 am to
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Last year the cost of being in Afghanistan made up a whopping 1% of the national budget.



Still too much. Jesus.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48709 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:56 am to
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We were not even fighting in Afghanistan any more. The last American KIA in Afghanistan was February of last year. we’d moved on to advisory and peacekeeping. Last year the cost of being in Afghanistan made up a whopping 1% of the national budget.

The truth is the Afghan Army for the past several years had shouldered the majority of the fighting and the last 5-6 years virtually all the fighting on the ground. Look at the casualty rates year by year:
American casualties by month and year

Research by Brown University estimates losses in the Afghan security forces at 69,000

The last time the US monthly casualty total was even in double digits was June 2014 when 13 servicemen died.

So the truth of Afghanistan was is has not been a “forever war” for the US. The Afghan Army was doing the fighting and were waging the type of war we trained them to fight, namely a combined arms land/air war where ground units could and did rely on air support for both combat and logistics needs. When Biden pulled eveyone out he also took the civilian contractors who maintained the Afgan air assets. Suddenly the Afghan army that has been fighting for years found it’s main ally was abandoning them and worse yet crippling their air assets. This is why the Afghan army collapsed in sudden fashion.


Excellent insight! Thank you.

Let me add a tid-bit of historical military history fact, just as a point of interest. I refer everyone to the North Vietnamese Army Offensive of Spring, 1972, the Year of the Rat. By 1972, the USA had greatly reduced its military footprint in Vietnam. The South Vietnamese Army was assigned to task to defend their country, and they were trained like the A-ghan forces, to do so backed by US air support assets from the USAF and USN.

In sum, the South Vietnamese Army was greatly challenged by this North Vietnamese Army offensive, but, KICKED NVA-arse. The Communist military forces were so thoroughly depleted by this defeat that it took them another three years to build up enough strength to launch another offensive - the 1975 offensive that ended the war.

IF the USA had not pulled the air support assets from A-ghan, the A-ghan Army probably would have defeated the Taliban in recent days. The decision to end all US air support operations IS the decisive factor in this military defeat of this US ally.
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