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re: Lefties: What excites you about Democrat policies?

Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by Tall Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:09 pm to
Your entire argument falls apart on your false assumption that native born Americans who are low skilled are out there "upskilling." I know there is no fixed amount of work, in fact the global corporations you favor have replaced many low skilled jobs with automation, and the resulting out of work low skilled Americans are not upskilling -- they are staying at home collecting unemployment, and of course the Biden administration is printing money and sending them checks on top of that. There is zero evidence that low skilled American workers are upskilling to any meaningful degree. Are you one of those liberals who is going to tell some uneducated person to get off the couch and learn how to code? Or go get a high tech green job? Again, this is a false assumption to justify the reckless and irresponsible immigration policies of the democrat party.

And the type of low skilled, uneducated immigrants Biden is taking do not grow the economy in any meaningful way other than more mouths to feed and shelter, which means more run down blighted communities and dollar stores, more junked out cars and paycheck lenders. This is no way to build or maintain a great civilization. It would help if we took immigrants from countries with histories of achievement and nation building like we did 100-150 years ago. But that sure is not what we are taking these days.
Posted by nonu121
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:47 pm to
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Your entire argument falls apart on your false assumption that native born Americans who are low skilled are out there "upskilling."


I mean they are up-skilling.

Native young workers are going onto college educations at much higher rates and graduation rates have increased significantly.

It should be made easier to up-skill but there is significant evidence of up-skilling. Graduation rates have doubled over the past few decades.

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they are staying at home collecting unemployment, and of course the Biden administration is printing money and sending them checks on top of that. There is zero evidence that low skilled American workers are upskilling to any meaningful degree.


In Economics, the job market is usually done through the 'search' model.

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Biden wants to increase the minimum wage, which will counteract the increase in unemployment benefits. If the unemployment benefits are less than the minimum wage, people will work.

In any case, I don't agree with large levels of unemployment benefits nor have I been an advocate for them nor do I believe in a high minimum wage. It's one of the things I tolerate from a Biden administration

Most low-skilled jobs haven't been automated and they won't for the near future. If it could be automated for cheap now, it would have been. People have been going on about automation for years but new jobs will be created from automation if it ever occurs (and those upskilled natives will be able to take advantage of it).


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Are you one of those liberals who is going to tell some uneducated person to get off the couch and learn how to code? Or go get a high tech green job? Again, this is a false assumption to justify the reckless and irresponsible immigration policies of the democrat party.


I don't really believe there will be a shortage of low-skilled jobs. In fact, most Economists predict the number of low-skilled jobs will increase as well as high-skilled jobs.

From low-skilled cleaners to carehome staff, most projections say that low-skilled jobs will actually increase in the next few decades.

It's middle-skilled jobs that have been hollowed out and that's just natural economics at play - no company can afford to manufacture in the US when it's cheaper to do elsewhere.

Besides, I thought Republicans were the party of personal responsibility.


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And the type of low skilled, uneducated immigrants Biden is taking do not grow the economy in any meaningful way other than more mouths to feed and shelter, which means more run down blighted communities and dollar stores, more junked out cars and paycheck lenders. This is no way to build or maintain a great civilization. It would help if we took immigrants from countries with histories of achievement and nation building like we did 100-150 years ago. But that sure is not what we are taking these days.


This is again, your opinion. You're welcome to have it but you can't present it as actual fact.

And for what it's worth, I'm in favor of a skills-based immigration system. A system that selects immigrants that we need based on our skills shortages would be fine by me. It's one of the policies I actually agreed with Trump on BUT I didn't agree with him on reducing numbers.


















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