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re: Israelis partying as a Palestinian building burns

Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:58 am to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:58 am to
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No its about a group of squatters calling themselves Palestinians, when there has never been a nation or country called Palestine.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Look at a map prior to 1948 and you'll see that area was called the British Mandate for Palestine. Before that, the Ottoman Turks referred to the area as Palestine. And censuses taken after World War I indicated that there were almost 600,000 Palestinian Muslims in what is now Israel compared to less than 85,000 Jews. Most Jews now living in Israel have been there for less than a century.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:18 am to
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SCLibertarian


It is good to try to educate these people, but they know not what they speak of. Jews are a relatively new phenomenon. There were originally Israelis and Judaeans.

For starters they weren't the natives there as mentioned in the Bible. They are responsible for the first historical mentioning of someone genociding a group of people to get their land. The old testament is basically a story of them ignoring what God told them to do and being punished for it. Their star is the star of moloch. The talmud is horrific and is why Jesus referred to those pharisees as the synagogue of satan, which is in the bible multiple times.

Also they had a major belief of redemption through sin brought about in 1666 to get their messiah. They believe in genociding the descendants of Amalek. If you don't know who that is it is people with Germanic ancestry specifically, European ancestry in general.

That isn't to say there aren't good and bad in the group. They've just been poisoned pilled with the God's chosen people and have went down a bad path instead of noble. Hopefully they correct themselves.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37024 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:20 am to
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You have no clue what you're talking about. Look at a map prior to 1948 and you'll see that area was called the British Mandate for Palestine. Before that, the Ottoman Turks referred to the area as Palestine. And censuses taken after World War I indicated that there were almost 600,000 Palestinian Muslims in what is now Israel compared to less than 85,000 Jews. Most Jews now living in Israel have been there for less than a century.



Not only that, the word first appeared in Herodotus as a reference to the region. Broadly, the use of the term Syria Palestine continued for a long time through various historical texts.

This is aside from the DNA evidence, which shows remarkably little movement of the inhabitants of the region, as DNA evidence links them to Neolithic inhabitants, which includes a subset of Jewish people too.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5498 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:27 am to
Who was the duly elected President of Palestine? Where is that list since 1948? What was its borders and form of government? Where is its Declaration of Independence from a British Mandate? Where is their capitol? What year was it declared a nation by the UN?

Who won the 1948 Arab-Israeli war?

Who won the 1967 Arab- Israeli 6 Day War?

Are we going to WOKE world wars now? If so you better learn German, and Japanese.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 10:50 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
80873 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:59 am to
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You have no clue what you're talking about. Look at a map prior to 1948 and you'll see that area was called the British Mandate for Palestine. Before that, the Ottoman Turks referred to the area as Palestine. And censuses taken after World War I indicated that there were almost 600,000 Palestinian Muslims in what is now Israel compared to less than 85,000 Jews. Most Jews now living in Israel have been there for less than a century.



I'm not asking this to you, but in general and in the context of this discussion over original right to the territory -

Who cares? When did this natural law right to possess territory you can't reclaim or defend arise?

Naysayers will inevitably talk about whether Israel can "naturally" do either - as though some ability to organically defend with homegrown defenders is the natural state of the world. I just find the entire concept of this debate bizarre.
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