re: For those of you with abs/low body fat and muscle, do you still feel a bit flabby unflexed

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Are you trying to cut down further to see them all?

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I guess my default answer is yes. I had a journal that I was posting my progress in for a couple of months. Then I'd update every month or so. I think my last update was around a month ago and I was back up to 186. I still track and weigh all my food, but I'm really inconsistent. I try to eat in a deficit, and I do for 2 or 3 days, but then on day 4 of the week I'll cave and have a piece of cake or my wife's leftovers. I will say, I've stopped the mindset of if I eat over my calories I can eat whatever I want because I've failed the day. That was a mess for a while.

But to answer the question, right now I'm just trying to hit 175 and see where I'm at from there.

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Likely has significantly less lean muscle tissue than you do.

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Yeah, he was a golfer in HS and never really lifted. On the flip side I played football and lifted like a maniac. Our athletic ability is about the same, but we just grew up differently in adolescence.