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re: Bob Weir... greatest rhythm guitar player ever? I’m starting to think so.

Posted on 4/28/21 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 3:50 pm to
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Poll a bunch of musicians and ask them who influenced them more, Metallica or the Dead, and the Dead would win.

That is just not true. There a genres of music that were created because of Metallica’s influence. Not everywhere is like Athens, Georgia, or Portland, Oregon. Rock is king in almost all (if not all) of the countries in Europe and South America and in Australia and New Zealand and very popular in some of the Asian countries, and Metallica are gods in all of those countries/continents. You can’t even begin compare the Grateful Dead’s popularity and influence to Metallica’s, nowhere near each other.

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If we had a competition to come up with examples of other musicians covering Dead songs vs. other musicians covering Metallica songs, the Dead would win in a landslide. They’ll be playing Garcia-Hunter tunes a hundred years from now just like they’re still playing Robert Johnson tunes today.


Once again, not everywhere is Athens, Georgia, or Portland, Oregon. There are bands all over the world covering Metallica songs.

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The Dead weren’t a commercial band and the live recordings they let fans tape and trade for free don’t count toward “going platinum.” Take whatever amount Metallica made from each album sale and tabulate that figure for the Dead multiplied by how many live bootlegs have been distributed among Deadheads, which the Dead received no compensation for, and which weren’t tracked by the record industry, and that figure would dwarf whatever Metallica made.


Metallica became world famous and were selling out arenas without making any videos or having very little radio play because of worldwide tape trading and playing festivals.



This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:59 pm to
You realize the Dead played rock, right? What “genres” did Metallica create in America or anywhere else? Are you saying Metallica is big in Vietnam? The Dead sort of had some obstacles to playing there during their heyday. Lulz.

When Lars Ulrich dies, it’s not going to make the news the way it did when Jerry died. (Is he the most prominent member of the band? That’s the only name I’ve ever been familiar with. I’ve never actually met a Metallica fan in real life and I’ve known a lot of musicians.)

The Dead have a worldwide following too. I’m not sure if we have a reliable way to determine who in Australia, New Zealand, or South America bought more Metallica albums vs. how many Dead tapes they collected. Are there thousands of Metallica shows up on archive.org that fans around the globe can download for free? I don’t know. Is there any reason to want to listen to every show Metallica played during any given tour?

Lars has respect for the Dead:

Metallica: ‘We model our existence on the Grateful Dead’

And the post-Jerry members of the Dead covered a Metallica tune:

About The Night The Dead Covered Metallica

There’s an album called Deadicated that’s made up of Dead covers by other bands. One of the best on the album is by Jane’s Addiction. I searched to see if there was a similar tribute album for Metallica but all I found was an album Metallica made covering the work of other artists. Why do you suppose that is?

It’s not a competition. It’s just reality.

Deadicated

Donald Fagen covered Shakedown

I mean, if you want to go with a covers war, we can go.
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
1503 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:00 pm to
I suppose a better way to edit a triple post would be to post this cover of Ripple by Chris Hillman of The Byrds and the Flying Burrito Brothers.

Chris Hillman - Ripple

(Jane’s Addiction’s cover was better and more innovative because it was set to the beat of The Other One.)
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 5:34 pm
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