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re: Bob Weir... greatest rhythm guitar player ever? I’m starting to think so.

Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:27 pm to
The Dead weren’t a commercial band and the live recordings they let fans tape and trade for free don’t count toward “going platinum.” Take whatever amount Metallica made from each album sale and tabulate that figure for the Dead multiplied by how many live bootlegs have been distributed among Deadheads, which the Dead received no compensation for, and which weren’t tracked by the record industry, and that figure would dwarf whatever Metallica made.

If we had a competition to come up with examples of other musicians covering Dead songs vs. other musicians covering Metallica songs, the Dead would win in a landslide. They’ll be playing Garcia-Hunter tunes a hundred years from now just like they’re still playing Robert Johnson tunes today.

Here’s another crazy metric: I’ll bet more people hate the Dead who never heard their music than there are people who hate Metallica without ever hearing theirs. Let that sink in. Har har, don’t take the brown acid! Metallica isn’t significant enough for me to make a snarky, snide comment like that about them.

Poll a bunch of musicians and ask them who influenced them more, Metallica or the Dead, and the Dead would win. In fact the Dead probably influenced Metallica in many ways you’re not aware of. Google “Owlsley Stanley.” He did a lot more than just make really good acid. (Which he practically gave away to prevent anyone from turning it into a cartel.) Look at his influence on speakers, amplification, and recording technology. Have you ever noticed how everybody uses the in-ear monitoring system these days? The Dead were pioneers in using that technology. The funny thing about the Dead is that they’re probably more respected by other bands like, say, Metallica, than are the hardcore fans of those bands.
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 3:50 pm to
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Poll a bunch of musicians and ask them who influenced them more, Metallica or the Dead, and the Dead would win.

That is just not true. There a genres of music that were created because of Metallica’s influence. Not everywhere is like Athens, Georgia, or Portland, Oregon. Rock is king in almost all (if not all) of the countries in Europe and South America and in Australia and New Zealand and very popular in some of the Asian countries, and Metallica are gods in all of those countries/continents. You can’t even begin compare the Grateful Dead’s popularity and influence to Metallica’s, nowhere near each other.

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If we had a competition to come up with examples of other musicians covering Dead songs vs. other musicians covering Metallica songs, the Dead would win in a landslide. They’ll be playing Garcia-Hunter tunes a hundred years from now just like they’re still playing Robert Johnson tunes today.


Once again, not everywhere is Athens, Georgia, or Portland, Oregon. There are bands all over the world covering Metallica songs.

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The Dead weren’t a commercial band and the live recordings they let fans tape and trade for free don’t count toward “going platinum.” Take whatever amount Metallica made from each album sale and tabulate that figure for the Dead multiplied by how many live bootlegs have been distributed among Deadheads, which the Dead received no compensation for, and which weren’t tracked by the record industry, and that figure would dwarf whatever Metallica made.


Metallica became world famous and were selling out arenas without making any videos or having very little radio play because of worldwide tape trading and playing festivals.



This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 4:21 pm
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