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re: Movie That Had Great Trailers to movies that ended up as bad flicks.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:39 pm to Muthsera
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:39 pm to Muthsera
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(1) the scoring and direction of the Nite Owl II-Silk Spectre II sex scene
It was awkward and kind of uncomfortable. It was more or less the same in the graphic novel. The use of Leonard Cohen’s version of that song was particularly grating but it didn’t ruin the movie for me.
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2) making Dr Manhattan the "common enemy" of the US and the Soviets
(3) to a lesser extent, VASTLY shrinking the scale and detail of Ozymandias' presence, essentially removing him from the narrative for 75% of the movie
Manhattan was the more realistic fill in for the plot device used in the graphic novel, I imagine in some part because it was easier to film while in others because it wasn’t as jarring without making a two part, five hour film. In a lot of ways, I actually thought it was a clever improvement even if the HBO series did a pretty solid job of conveying the original vision of the incident from the novel.
Ozymandias’ relative absence in the movie seemed, again, to be the result of needing an entire mini series or multiple movies to actually portray and have a pay off for the portrayal akin to the novel. Plus, it made sense in the context of the film medium to make what was essentially the villain a more minor part of the movie until the end; there was just a lot more to focus on and it added punch to the reveal of his actual powers which went beyond mere super-intelligence (speed, reflexes, strength).
All in all, an audience reading the graphic novel is going to inherently suspend some disbelief when a giant squid monster shows up (also, they’re going to know who Alan Moore is and be much more accepting of any ideas he presents). By comparison, turning Dr. Manhattan into society’s Public Enemy #1 in the film was much more palatable for a wider audience that may not be as familiar with the source material.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:33 pm to tylerdurden24
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Manhattan was the more realistic fill in for the plot device used in the graphic novel
It's just so dumb to me. What are they going to do? Everyone, but especially the Americans, knows that Dr Manhattan exists outside of space and time. That his godlike powers would allow him to incinerate entire armies with a mere thought. There is no plan of attack or defense. There is no plan of escape. If he is targeting humans, humans are extinct.
The threat had to be something humans could conceivably defend themselves against or, with persuasion, escape to the stars and avoid. It's only important that the world knows Manhattan won't be there to do it for them.
I thought the sex scene in the comic worked because it was 2 pathetic people reaching out in a desperate moment for connection. The movie read as 2 noble but damaged people reaching out, pathetically, for connection. The song was ridiculous.
As for Adrian, it shouldn't be a surprise that Veidt is the villain, it's that his plan succeeds without interruption. But I think it's crucial that we see his machinations all along, that we see the ads for Nostalgia vs Millennium (that get referenced by characters), and that layer was missing from the film - he wasn't *present* when he was offscreen.
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